A Guide to WinCustomize User Levels & Promotion

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 by Zoomba | Discussion: Community

WinCustomize makes use of a tiered user level system, with each level of user having slightly more site access than the one below it.  The idea is that as people become more involved in the community, contribute more to the site in terms of skins, or help via the forums, they are rewarded with a higher level.  Now, while we have this information hidden away in various spots on the site, we've been getting a lot of questions in the last few months on what the levels are, what they mean, and most importantly how they're awarded. 

This is your guide to WC User Levels.

Explanation of Access Levels

Note: Users at higher levels have all the benefits and privileges of the levels below them.

Exiled (-1)
This is a user who has been blocked from using the site.  They can not post on the forums, leave comments on skins, vote in polls or download any content from the site.  They are essentially banned.  Users are exiled for violation of site Terms of Service, for spamming, or for causing significant damage to the community.

Visitor (0)
Visitors are usually anonymous users.  These are people who have not logged in.  They can download skins, but have a very low download quota (25mb).  They can not comment on skins or post to the forums.  A user can be placed at visitor level as an administrative action to block abusive comments or spamming.  This punishment renders them unable to participate in discussions, but they can still use the site.

Citizen (1)
This is the default level for all registered users.  A citizen can submit skins, download skins (500mb limit), post comments in the forums and on skins etc.  They can also create a personal site and modify their own site/account settings.

Apprentice (2)
A citizen who has submitted skins can be nominated to be promoted to an Apprentice.  These are members of the community who have contributed to the skinning community and who make the site better with their presence.  Apprentice level and higher can rate skins.

Master Apprentice (3)
Essentially one more step up.  They've continued, as an apprentice, to make a meaningful contribution to WinCustomize through their skins, articles or forum posts.  This is the last step before Journeyman.

Journeyman (4)
Essentially, journeyman users are super-citizens who have been with WinCustomize and skinning for quite a while.  They're both very talented skinners and a very positive element in the community.  To become a journeyman you have to be among the top contributors to the site and be in good standing.  Because journeymen are such elite skinners, their skins are automatically accepted onto the site without passing through moderation.

Master (5)
Masters are the true elders of the community.  People who have been around for ages.  To be a Master, not only must the user be a significant contributor to the community, but be a key figure in the ongoing health and growth of the community.  A Master must think of WinCustomize as their primary home in the skinning world.  Masters, in addition to being able to bypass moderation, can also sell their skins directly to users through WinCustomize.

Wizop (6)
Volunteers who help run WinCustomize on a day-to-day basis.  They assist with skin moderation.  They also help users who have questions and in general act as custodians of the site.  Wizops ensure the smooth operation of WinCustomize.

Super Wizop (7)
A core group of moderators who have been around the site for a very long time.  They have greater administrative powers to help keep everything running smoothly, and to intervene in problems before they get out of hand.

Moderator (8)
Site Moderators.  Users at 8 are sometimes Stardock/WinCustomize employees who have responsibilities ranging from Upload moderation to User - Support interaction and assistance. These are the general "go-to guys" for problem solving.

Avatar (9)
Site overlords.  Users at 9 are almost exclusively Stardock/WinCustomize employees who have oversight responsibilities. 

How Users are Promoted

Every month, the site moderators get together and nominate users who they feel should be promoted.  Nominated users are then voted on, those who receive a 2/3 majority are promoted, users who do not can be nominated again the following month.  Each moderator can vote as they wish, though they are usually asked to provide a reason if they vote "no".  The records of these votes/nominations are not available to the public.

Generally, we ask moderators to consider the following things for each access level:

  • General: Is the user in good standing?  Are they active?  Are they a positive presence?
  • Apprentice: Have they been with the site for a few months at least?  Do they have a good selection of skins?
  • Master Apprentice: Have they been with the site for more than just a few months?  Is their library significantly larger than when they were promoted to Apprentice?  Has the quality of their work improved over time?
  • Journeyman: Are they a long-standing member of the community?  Have they made a significant contribution to the site in skins and/or forum posts etc.  Is their work of a sufficient quality that they can be allowed to post without moderation? (this is a very important thing to consider)
  • Master: Are they an "elder" of the community?  Is their work of an exceptional level?  Do we feel their work is good enough that we are willing to sell it on the front page?

Promotion to moderator is a different matter and usually handled on a case-by-case basis.

It's a lot to take in, but hopefully this clarifies the access levels a bit more, and how people are promoted.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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Bash2cool
Reply #21 Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:56 PM
now i know why i was nominated to Apprentice so quickly...i only made two skins when i got nominated, but the second one is my most highest downloaded skin.
angus1949
Reply #22 Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:21 PM
And remember, that one doesn't need to be a skinner(or never used to be) to get promoted. Just be helpful on the forums.
???WOM,basically every stage above Citizen makes mention of skin submittals required...now I'm confused.  
CobraKahn
Reply #23 Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:41 PM
Just curious...has anyone ever achieved the level of Apprentice without being a "skinner" i. e. does it exclude those who only submit ScreenShots?
Zoomba
Reply #24 Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:42 PM

Skins are something that can be easily quantified, so we can put some guidelines around them.  We do promote non-skinners here too, but there are no strong guidelines there.  Non-skinners are promoted based on much more subjective evaluation.

Basically, you have to really stand-out in the forums, articles etc.  Be very helpful, very friendly.

ZubaZ
Reply #25 Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:46 PM
Just curious...has anyone ever achieved the level of Apprentice without being a "skinner"
ZubaZ whistles and walks away smiling
CobraKahn
Reply #26 Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:49 PM
Thank you, Zoomba...so by definition, one who only submits ScreenShots is NOT considered a "skinner"...is that correct?
andrew_
Reply #27 Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:54 PM
We also need ongoing help with the WIKI. I'm sure effort towards that would go noticed.
vStyler
Reply #28 Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:30 PM
I'm sure effort towards that would go noticed.


or wouldn't?   
CobraKahn
Reply #29 Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:37 PM
Since any understanding of a "Guide" is predicated on the fact that certain terms be understood precisely....am I correct in assuming that one who only submits ScreenShots is NOT a "skinner"??
zakai1369
Reply #30 Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:56 PM
Apprentice level and higher can rate skins.


Also citizens who have subscribed. Correct?


I rarely remember to rate but I know I have a few times.

Quicksilver007
Reply #31 Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:17 PM
I can show you, if you wish, Zu .....just one more typo....just one
ZubaZ
Reply #32 Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:29 PM
Since any understanding of a "Guide" is predicated on the fact that certain terms be understood precisely....am I correct in assuming that one who only submits ScreenShots is NOT a "skinner"??
Anyone can be promoted for anything.  Being a skinner helps and is quantifiable (how much of what rated how high) . . but isn't mandatory.

Clearer?
HG_Eliminator
Reply #33 Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:39 PM
.am I correct in assuming that one who only submits ScreenShots is NOT a "skinner"??


I take this one, as resident Screen shoter


I am not a skinner IMO i am a porter/ modder. I port skins from one application to another or modify existing ones. I for a long time never really contributed to the galleries except screen shots.. during that time I di keep very busy of the forums helping out , and was promoted as my time and effort, deemed me worthy. I have made a few skins from scratch but that is not my forte.

A skinner is those who are gifted with the ability to visualize something then make it from scratch, whether it be a WB,or winamp skin, etc.

A modder/ porter is one who modify s existing graphics to new applications. Example: Logons where a wall iss used with permission from another artist and assembled in to a logon, or my NsYSExtazy DX theme , where I took Froozzen's aston shell theme and ported it to DX.

A screen shotter is one who enjoys the benefits of the latter two and assembles them in to various desktop arrangements, then uploads a screen shot of their idea of a cool desktop. While being a Good Screen shotter can be beneficial to the site as it can allow WC/SD to showcase new ways of utilizing the themes. It generally has not been considered being an actual skinner as it is not actually making the stuff from scratch, but rather assembling other skinners skins an a pleasing fashion.


Even at this time I still do not consider my self a skinner. With the likes of Treetog, Doodle,MikeB,Alexandrie,Snowman,Wreklesseric,Hippy,Starone,Boxxi,thredz,Dangruss,Jafo, etc, the true masters of skinning, I could in no way put my self in their category.

I am but a humble Novice Enjoying the fruits of their labors
Bash2cool
Reply #34 Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:32 PM


I am not a skinner IMO i am a porter/ modder. I port skins from one application to another or modify existing ones. I for a long time never really contributed to the galleries except screen shots.. during that time I di keep very busy of the forums helping out , and was promoted as my time and effort, deemed me worthy. I have made a few skins from scratch but that is not my forte.
i think i fall into that category as well.
CobraKahn
Reply #35 Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:38 PM
HG_Eliminator's description of the different skill levels of artistic abilities of members here at WC is in agreement with my understanding of what constitutes a "skinner" and therefore, to quote from the Guide with regard to the title "Apprentice":
"A citizen who has submitted skins can be nominated to be promoted to an Apprentice."
one would have to infer that "skins" in this context means the product of "those who are gifted with the ability to visualize something then make it from scratch, whether it be a WB,or winamp skin, etc."... would seem to exclude those members who only submit ScreenShots. But Zubaz writes: "Anyone can be promoted for anything. Being a skinner helps and is quantifiable (how much of what rated how high) . . but isn't mandatory." If anyone can be promoted for anything then the "Guide" should be interpreted very liberally and promotions could be granted on a meritorious basis as well as an honorific one. I conclude that it is up to the mods to nominate and they can do so based on any given criteria...not necessarily on the fact that the intended nominee is a "skinner" in the strict sense of the word, but on a myriad of reasons which, of course, would be impossible to enumerate.
ZubaZ
Reply #36 Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:42 PM
I conclude that it is up to the mods to nominate and they can do so based on any given criteria...not necessarily on the fact that the intended nominee is a "skinner" in the strict sense of the word, but on a myriad of reasons which, of course, would be impossible to enumerate.
Didn't Zoomba adn I say that? 

I think only Jafo could say it longer.  
CobraKahn
Reply #37 Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:51 PM
No, because the definition of a "skinner" and "skin" are not defined anywhere in the Guide and presumption can lead to erroneous conclusions. A ScreenShot is not a "skin" as HG defined the terms so succinctly, so I now have an understanding of the terms in question. Thanks for your help!
TYCUS
Reply #38 Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:40 PM
mmmh., now things are more clear to me...  
Jafo
Reply #39 Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:42 PM

I conclude that it is up to the mods to nominate and they can do so based on any given criteria...not necessarily on the fact that the intended nominee is a "skinner" in the strict sense of the word, but on a myriad of reasons which, of course, would be impossible to enumerate.

Several of the Moderators are non-skinners [though all would be users].  Valued contribution to the site/community is not restricted to skins only.

Even good spelling isn't essential....just ask Zubaz....

CobraKahn
Reply #40 Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:47 PM
Thank you, Jafo...that information is helpful.

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