Planning for the GUIC 08 - Site Design

Tuesday, May 27, 2008 by Zoomba | Discussion: Websites

That's right, the 2008 GUI Champs are approaching!  The last event, which wrapped up at the end of 2006, was a big success and we're aiming to top things with this year's edition.  One of the first things we're looking at revamping is the GUIC Website.  If you look back, you'll see that we used the 2004 site again in 2006, and it didn't age well.  For a competition focused on GUI greatness, the site was pretty embarrassing.  It was also very buggy and hard to update with contest results etc.

So this year it's back to the drawing board!

One thing people probably don't realize is how much planning has to go into even a relatively simple site like the GUIC one.  It's not as simple as throwing together an upload page, news page, gallery page and skin page and call it done.  For the 2008 GUIC Site, we have to design and implement over a dozen completely unique pages, each with very different tech requirements.

Here are a few of the big improvements that are currently being talked about.  Keep in mind we're still in the design phase of this, so it's all subject to change.  But I wanted to tease everyone a bit with this to get some interest going in the competition, and to get some feedback on what you'd like to see in the site.

Improved Team System

Previously, all you had was a page with a text list of who was on a team, and how many skins individuals had uploaded to the competition.  For 2008, we want to encourage teams more, we're even debating (again, no promises) the idea of maybe a team event where everyone on a team contributes to a skin.  If we do that, we need the Team System to pull off a lot more.  Here are a few thoughts being kicked around:

  • Team logo
  • Team leader, members
  • Latest skins by all team members
  • Awards won by individuals, by team
  • Current point total
  • Mini-message board limited to that team (very iffy)

Think of it as a personal page like on WC, only with multiple people's content.  The guestbook would be improved/fixed too.

Brand New Upload Tools

We've actually had a completely new upload tool about 60% completed for a while now, but no time to really sit down and finish it up and test it.  So we're using the GUIC hopefully as the trial-run for the tool.  Features that could be included in the new tool:

  • Only allows valid file types
    No more uploading something only to have it kicked back hours later by a moderator for not having the right file type.  The tool won't even let you upload files that aren't on the "approved" list.
  • Background Uploading
    Type in your skin description and other meta data while your files upload in the background.  Saves a lot of time for the user, lets them know if there are any problems before even hitting "submit"
  • Check preview images
    Tired of getting your submission kicked back because your preview was under 1024x768?  This new tool should be able to check the preview file once uploaded and immediately tell you if it's OK or not.
  • Better error reporting
    No more "upload failed" universal error messages.  Because we're checking individual files (i.e. the skin for file type, size, the preview image for dimensions etc.) we should be able to pinpoint exactly where something failed.  Of course, if the file transfer itself fails, you'll still see "Upload failed" but in that case, it should actually help us track down the problem.

Basically, the goal with the new upload tool is to make it as idiot-proof as possible and to head off problems before they get into moderation.  Only allowing submissions that meet basic technical requirements will help speed up the submission and moderation process.

A Site that Focuses on Skins First, News Second

The GUIC 2006 site is almost all text.  To get a look at any skins, you have to dig around.  It's not exactly a skin-focused site.  So the 2008 GUIC site is going to be a first pass at a design that puts the emphasis on the user content first.  Sure there will still be news, there will still be forums, but for a skinning site, maybe that needs to take a backseat to showing off what users are creating.  Like I said, parts of the GUIC 2008 site are going to be a dry-run for features and improvements to WinCustomize in the future. 

New Moderation Tools

This point is really of more interest to our moderator staff, but we're going to be taking the opportunity with the 2008 competition site to take a pass at redesigning the moderator tools for skins.  You may not know this, but the tools the moderators have at their disposal haven't really changed much at all since probably 2005.  They were updated code-wise to work on the 2007 site, but from a design or workflow perspective they haven't changed in over 3 years now.  For the GUIC site, we want a robust set of tools for contest moderators to be able to handle skins. 

Ideally, we want to handle everything from moderating submissions to designating event winners and automatically tracking who's winning overall, team totals, even points based on skinner country of origin.

Cleaner overall design, improved navigation

We've been going through sites lately and drastically simplifying their look and feel.  Aiming for something that is easier to use, faster to load, but still pleasing to the eye.  JoeUser was our first major effort in this direction, and we refined it a step or two further with the Impulse Community site.  One of the major criticisms of WC2k7 was that it was a heavy site to navigate.  And as I said above, the GUIC 2006 site wasn't exactly user-friendly.  The watch-word for the GUIC 2008 design is "simple".  The skins and other content should be the overall focus, everything else on the site should work to make it easier to view/download that content.

 

Like I keep saying, this is all stuff we're talking about in the design phase, some of this might not make it to the final site depending on the amount of time we have allocated to actually building it, but we're hopeful.  If the features work well on the GUIC site, you can bet they'll make their way over to WinCustomize in the future.

Is there anything you'd like to see improved/added to the GUIC site for the 2008 competition?  Thoughts on what I outlined above?  I'm looking for all the feedback and additional ideas I can get here.  But please keep it limited to site design and features.  We're not ready to talk about events in the competition or exactly when it will start.   Questions about stuff like that will likely be moderated, I want to keep this discussion on-topic.

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NightTrainthedark
Reply #61 Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:05 AM
Danny Boy is welcome as well.
eieio
Reply #62 Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:34 AM
Soooooo..... Po, Skinhit, Z71, and Pictoratus.... You all wanna be a team?


I would be honored to join you guys! Thanks
theAVMAN
Reply #63 Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:38 AM
Just throwing my name in the pot!
Z71
Reply #64 Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:13 AM
Soooooo..... Po, Skinhit, Z71, and Pictoratus.... You all wanna be a team?

I would be honored to join you guys! Thanks


What would be our name and can I make the LOGO (Flag)?
Who would be the Captain? There's a whole lot of Chiefs and very few Indians.
Would we go by senoirity?

Man, I love stirring the pot. Sorry AVMAN for using the pot reference...

ZubaZ
Reply #65 Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:50 AM
Quitters!  The EyeRseeRs don't need you all anyway!!

 
vStyler
Reply #66 Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:22 AM
Did someone say pot?   
PoSmedley
Reply #67 Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:01 AM
Did someone say pot?


Ahhh..Pink Floyd
Dirty bong water
Perkin's Pancake House at 3 in the morning
Trippin over watchin Harold and Maude for the 37th time..and it just kept gettin better every time
Late night thunderstorms
Candles
Black lights

at least...that's what I've heard
unclerob
Reply #68 Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:50 PM
I'll second that...and I hope Wallpapers is NOT one of the categoriesIt won't be (you can thank Aaron's "flaming aero of death" for that).


I loved that wp seriously!   
NightTrainthedark
Reply #69 Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:46 PM
What would be our name and can I make the LOGO (Flag)?
Who would be the Captain? There's a whole lot of Chiefs and very few Indians.
Would we go by senoirity?
Ross, I have no interest in being a leader. Following takes less brain hemhorraging. If someone wants to take charge, please do. Someone just had to get the ball roling on forming a team to compete with Maxstyles. I have no objection to adding AVman to the cast as well.
Z71
Reply #70 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:20 PM
As of now, if my calculations are correct, we have (in no paticular order):

Z71,
Night Train,
Skinhit,
Po' Smedley,
pictoratus,
APB (if past August),
DigitalChet (if he can clear his schedule),

AVMAN, are you in?

If I missed anybody, let me know.

Or, if anyone else would like to join, leave a comment. The more the better...

I'm thinking about creating a new post, so we can start throwing out names and logo designs.
We all kind of went off topic and took over this thread...  
We have a lot of time, so there's no big rush.

GH33DA
Reply #71 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:28 PM
Good luck to all you guys. I'm sure it'll be another great event.
ZubaZ
Reply #72 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:32 PM
Hey everyone . . don't worry . . good ol' Zubaz doesn't have any feelings.  He doesn't mind you all going off and forming your own team.


















 
theAVMAN
Reply #73 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:39 PM
AVMAN, are you in?


I'm there.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #74 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:41 PM
I'm thinking about creating a new post, so we can start throwing out names and logo designs.


I was gonna do that last night to make the smoke stop bellowing from Zoomba's eyes.   
Z71
Reply #75 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:42 PM
I'm there.


Happy to have you on board!      
RickJP
Reply #76 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:42 PM
Summer is for chilling out and relaxing not sweating over some graphics program to get just the right look.


Or I'm crap so will just watch form the sidelines.

Team watches easiest team to be in
Philly0381
Reply #77 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM
Hey everyone . . don't worry . . good ol' Zubaz doesn't have any feelings. He doesn't mind you all going off and forming your own team.


Well I was thinking about putting together a team of non-skinners who have never submitted anything.   

We would have to win since what ever we submitted would look like nothing you ever saw before.   
GH33DA
Reply #78 Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:52 PM
Hey everyone . . don't worry . . good ol' Zubaz doesn't have any feelings.  He doesn't mind you all going off and forming your own team. 


Just be glad you're not me.
RickJP
Reply #79 Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:00 PM
what ever we submitted would look like nothing you ever saw before.


ain't that the truth.

Z71
Reply #80 Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:18 PM
For all those involved, Here is the link to the new "Name--Logo" post.   

Name--Logo

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