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Vista JadeUpdated Feb 24, 2007 by IRaidedTheFridge |
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raisinjack
Comment #2 Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:09 AM
Comment #2 Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:09 AM
I like green skins,but unfortunately this one is buggered up on Vista. The quick launch bar,favorites and several other places aren't skinned.(they come out as sorta pink). Don't know if it is me or the skin. I'd like to get it to work!
IRaidedTheFridge
Comment #3 Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:54 AM
Comment #3 Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:54 AM
That stinks it doesnt work on vista! In some areas of this skin, I didn't really want a background until you moused-over, (like the quicklaunch) and so the normal layer is just a square of the 'magic pink' color set to transparent. I'm guessing vista doesnt like that so much!
unclerob
Comment #4 Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:11 AM
Comment #4 Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:11 AM
if you resize the taskbar which is something I usually do, the start button sits above instead of blending into the rest of the taskbar; the bottom portion of the startpanel is solid black and it should probably be transparent along with the rest of the startpanel. The left, right & bottom windowframe borders probably would have looked better if they were thicker, instead of being thinner. The min/max/close window buttons would have looked better without the black box border going around them.I didn't notice the window border effects that you mentioned but that may be because this skin was intended for the windows vista environment. The push buttons don't stretch properly and break apart revealing a partial black bkgnd which makes the text unreadable.
It looks like created this windowblinds on a vista machine(or you got a hold of a decent vista icon set for the wb), I'm running xp and maybe alot of the problems experienced with this skin are because of that. Possibly in the future you could state that the windowblinds was created specifically for the windows vista environment and may not look as good in a winxp environment - it's not a deal breaker per se but it's helpful to include info like that I think.
Good for a first try but I think you have room for improvement - this is meant as constructive criticism and not meant to insult or take away from the hard work you put into this skin.
It looks like created this windowblinds on a vista machine(or you got a hold of a decent vista icon set for the wb), I'm running xp and maybe alot of the problems experienced with this skin are because of that. Possibly in the future you could state that the windowblinds was created specifically for the windows vista environment and may not look as good in a winxp environment - it's not a deal breaker per se but it's helpful to include info like that I think.
Good for a first try but I think you have room for improvement - this is meant as constructive criticism and not meant to insult or take away from the hard work you put into this skin.
IRaidedTheFridge
Comment #5 Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:44 AM
Comment #5 Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:44 AM
I'm running xp... and it all works fine just like in the screenshot. Odd.
LittleBearJason
Comment #7 Saturday, February 24, 2007 3:55 PM
Magic Pink everywhere on my area too.
Comment #7 Saturday, February 24, 2007 3:55 PM
That stinks it doesnt work on vista!
Magic Pink everywhere on my area too.
I.R. Brainiac
Comment #8 Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:06 PM
Comment #8 Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:06 PM
Try using .tga's instead and see if that helps�
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IRaidedTheFridge
Comment #9 Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:31 AM
Comment #9 Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:31 AM
ah, ok! Yeah i wasnt sure what the best file type was since is only the second skin i've made yet. I'll try tgas next time. 
warreni
Comment #10 Monday, February 26, 2007 9:31 AM
Jason, I think they have an ointment for that now. ��
Comment #10 Monday, February 26, 2007 9:31 AM
Magic Pink everywhere on my area too.
Jason, I think they have an ointment for that now. �
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The Wicked Flea
Comment #11 Monday, February 26, 2007 9:42 AM
Comment #11 Monday, February 26, 2007 9:42 AM
Pretty good skin, but with one problem: all the buttons have no middle to them. The bottom and top corners and borders work great, but on taller buttons there is a gap in the middle and sides.
If I could vote, I'd give you a 4/5 rating -- for some reason it always says there's an error processing my vote.
If I could vote, I'd give you a 4/5 rating -- for some reason it always says there's an error processing my vote.
RMagruder
Comment #12 Monday, February 26, 2007 10:59 AM
Comment #12 Monday, February 26, 2007 10:59 AM
I second what Flea said. Fix the black bars across those buttons, and maybe make a better min/max/close set (I wouldn't mind just using the Vista stuff here), and the skin would be awesome.
IRaidedTheFridge
Comment #13 Monday, February 26, 2007 11:04 AM
Comment #13 Monday, February 26, 2007 11:04 AM
Thanks for the replys! Is there anyway to let people check out your skin for errors before publicly uploading? I guess I could just put it on my profile page and ask people to check it. It sure stinks finding all these errors now! 
unclerob
Comment #14 Monday, February 26, 2007 3:58 PM
Comment #14 Monday, February 26, 2007 3:58 PM
You pretty much have to do the testing yourself and make sure that the testing is exhaustive - open up the windows os as much as you can to see how your skin looks in all the different areas.
When I'm testing, I like to open up several windows & internet explorer sessions, open up an office app (email), open up windows explorer & the control panel & open up my computer, device manager, etc. and see how your wb theme affects all of these areas and verify what looks good and what doesn't and go back & fix it. Also make sure you move the taskbar to the right & left sides of the screen and to the top as well. Resize the taskbar, verify that your startbutton looks & acts the same way when you move the task bar, verify that the elements you skinned for your horizontal taskbar look the same when you move the taskbar to a vertical left or right position, view the taskbar quick launch area and see if it works & looks the same way in horizontal & vertically aligned taskbar modes. Even with all this testing you will usually miss something but you'll catch most of it. Test, test & then test some more and use it for a few weeks before you release it on the site. I find that when you use your own theme for a few weeks or more you'll end up noticing bugs that never appeared originally and then you go back & fix it. Once you've used it for a while and it behaves reasonably on your system, go ahead and upload it to the site and hope for the best.
When I'm testing, I like to open up several windows & internet explorer sessions, open up an office app (email), open up windows explorer & the control panel & open up my computer, device manager, etc. and see how your wb theme affects all of these areas and verify what looks good and what doesn't and go back & fix it. Also make sure you move the taskbar to the right & left sides of the screen and to the top as well. Resize the taskbar, verify that your startbutton looks & acts the same way when you move the task bar, verify that the elements you skinned for your horizontal taskbar look the same when you move the taskbar to a vertical left or right position, view the taskbar quick launch area and see if it works & looks the same way in horizontal & vertically aligned taskbar modes. Even with all this testing you will usually miss something but you'll catch most of it. Test, test & then test some more and use it for a few weeks before you release it on the site. I find that when you use your own theme for a few weeks or more you'll end up noticing bugs that never appeared originally and then you go back & fix it. Once you've used it for a while and it behaves reasonably on your system, go ahead and upload it to the site and hope for the best.
vStyler
Comment #15 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:07 AM
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As for the theme, for your second its not bad, as unclerob said, try to spend more time evaluating your work in ALL areas of windows. Use it for an extended period of time to make sure you havent left anything unskinned.
Patience is a skinner's best friend imo. We all want to upload our latest work ASAP but if you hold off a little, keep working at it... trust me, it helps you in the long run.
Good luck and keep on skinning! ��
Comment #15 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:07 AM
Jason, I think they have an ointment for that now.
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�As for the theme, for your second its not bad, as unclerob said, try to spend more time evaluating your work in ALL areas of windows. Use it for an extended period of time to make sure you havent left anything unskinned.
Patience is a skinner's best friend imo. We all want to upload our latest work ASAP but if you hold off a little, keep working at it... trust me, it helps you in the long run.
Good luck and keep on skinning! �
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jazzymjr
Comment #16 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:26 AM
While I am making a blind, I use it exclusively. It's not very pretty in the beginning with all the luna junk, but I find that this helps me to really see how the blind works, and to find errors. It takes me about 3-4 weeks to make a blind, so by the time I upload it, it has been used for some time.
You could upload your blind to skinartristry to their WIP...they could test it for you.
Also, about the black in the middle of your buttons, check your sizing margins..make sure the top and bottom margins are not set too close together.
I would test your blind for you, but I am not at home, and am using my laptop which does not have WB on it. I will be back home on the 30th, though.
Keep at it and don't give up!
Comment #16 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:26 AM
I find that when you use your own theme for a few weeks or more you'll end up noticing bugs that never appeared originally and then you go back & fix it. Once you've used it for a while and it behaves reasonably on your system, go ahead and upload it to the site and hope for the best.
While I am making a blind, I use it exclusively. It's not very pretty in the beginning with all the luna junk, but I find that this helps me to really see how the blind works, and to find errors. It takes me about 3-4 weeks to make a blind, so by the time I upload it, it has been used for some time.
You could upload your blind to skinartristry to their WIP...they could test it for you.
Also, about the black in the middle of your buttons, check your sizing margins..make sure the top and bottom margins are not set too close together.
I would test your blind for you, but I am not at home, and am using my laptop which does not have WB on it. I will be back home on the 30th, though.
Keep at it and don't give up!
IRaidedTheFridge
Comment #17 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:35 AM
Comment #17 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:35 AM
Yep, I'll do some more testing next time. I'm working on a skin with transparency right now... that's giving me a heck of a time!! Skin studio isn't horrible, but it could be a bit more user-friendly! Or maybe just noob friendly 
vStyler
Comment #18 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:19 PM
All the more reason for "on the job experience" Don't worry , you'll get it, as long as you don't give up. Besides.. the Forums or IRC are a super place to get answers to anything that stumps you or is causing indigestion or hair loss ��
Don't be afraid to ask, someone here will almost certainly give you the answer.
Keep on skinning!
Comment #18 Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:19 PM
Skin studio isn't horrible, but it could be a bit more user-friendly! Or maybe just noob friendly
All the more reason for "on the job experience" Don't worry , you'll get it, as long as you don't give up. Besides.. the Forums or IRC are a super place to get answers to anything that stumps you or is causing indigestion or hair loss �
�Don't be afraid to ask, someone here will almost certainly give you the answer.
Keep on skinning!
RzVn
Comment #19 Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:29 PM
Comment #19 Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:29 PM
dude, the idea is great, i like this green and black thing, but there are some bugs, i use windows media vision and i get the same bugs as this:
and also if you change the size of the taskbar it looks strange at the left end...also the right end of it can be improved...
but as i said i like it...please keep on working at it...
and also if you change the size of the taskbar it looks strange at the left end...also the right end of it can be improved...
but as i said i like it...please keep on working at it...
IRaidedTheFridge
Comment #20 Thursday, March 1, 2007 1:35 AM
Comment #20 Thursday, March 1, 2007 1:35 AM
Hey guys, I fixed a few problems. I'm still not sure about the issue with windows vista and the attack of the magic pink...
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Comment #1 Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:58 AM