WinCustomize 2K9 concepts

Friday, January 16, 2009 by Frogboy | Discussion: OS Customization

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The new WinCustomize is going to be a radical departure from what we have today.

In the web 2.0 age, we can do a lot of interesting things that should greatly improve the navigation of the site. The days of clicking, waiting for the page to load, clicking, waiting for the page to load and so forth will go away.

Instead, the site will feel more akin to a desktop application. Want to see the most popular skinners, click on tab and it'll expand to show it.

The site will end up being far cleaner, far faster, and far easier to use than what we have today.

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DPCloud
Reply #61 Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:32 AM

what's the difference in quoting blocks. some have names and some don't???

Some people use code and some use the button.

gmc2
Reply #62 Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:59 AM

Some people use code and some use the button.

meaning???

ZubaZ
Reply #63 Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:18 AM

what's the difference in quoting blocks. some have names and some don't???
If you select nothing and click the quoate button it qoutes the whole post (with name info, etc).  If you select text and use the quote button it just quotes what you selecdted.
vStyler
please, dear Lord... or.. Brad.. as the case may be.. bring back 'last post read' function.

Having to constantly click last page and then scroll down to the bottom should be unheard of on todays forums.
Go to  the recent page.  https://forums.wincustomize.com/recent

Click the arrow at the end of the row to go to last post.

Daiwa
Reply #64 Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:05 AM

If you select nothing and click the quoate button it qoutes the whole post (with name info, etc). If you select text and use the quote button it just quotes what you selecdted.

Any reason the author/reply# couldn't be included with the snip quotes, too?

ZubaZ
Reply #65 Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:17 AM

If you select nothing and click the quoate button it qoutes the whole post (with name info, etc). If you select text and use the quote button it just quotes what you selecdted.[/quote][quote who="Daiwa" reply="14" id="2024615"]Any reason the author/reply# couldn't be included with the snip quotes, too?
Time, effort, resources? 

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #66 Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:25 AM

I always make my own quote boxes using:-

 

vStyler
Reply #67 Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:51 AM

Click the arrow at the end of the row to go to last post.

 

I've already said that's not what I am referring to.. That takes you to last post.. not.. last post read.. which could be a page or two back. Which is how I described it previous to this.

Is that working for anyone?

 

Additionally, if you browse from 'Recent Forum Activity'  the last post button on forum page is moot.

ZubaZ
Reply #68 Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:13 PM

I've already said that's not what I am referring to.. That takes you to last post.. not.. last post read.. which could be a page or two back. Which is how I described it previous to this.
Umm . . no.  It takes you to last post read.  Based on cookies.

karmat
Reply #69 Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:26 PM

I'm all for speed and faster previews. To be able to change the look of the page would be great. As one example, here's a shot of how Roger's Yahoo lets you skin (hope my upload works properly)...

Daiwa
Reply #70 Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:32 PM


I've already said that's not what I am referring to.. That takes you to last post.. not.. last post read.. which could be a page or two back. Which is how I described it previous to this.
Umm . . no.  It takes you to last post read.  Based on cookies.

That button functions as Zubaz describes here - takes me to the last reply I read in that particular thread.  I'd prefer that simply selecting the article/thread would default to the most recently read reply, however, which is what I remember used to be the case, but not the end of the world if that never happens again.

Time, effort, resources?

Aren't those the things you're devoting to Wincustomize 2k9 Concepts? 

These are just things for the Suggestion Box, after all.

vStyler
Reply #71 Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:46 PM

Umm . . no. It takes you to last post read. Based on cookies.

 

Not here and apparently some others. The 'works for me' response is.. eh...

vStyler
Reply #72 Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:50 PM

I'd prefer that simply selecting the article/thread would default to the most recently read reply

which is what I remember used to be the case

 

Exactly..as for the one.. the last doesnt show in recent activity anyway.

 

* off to bang head against nearest structure *

gmc2
Reply #73 Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:11 PM

If you select nothing and click the quoate button it qoutes the whole post (with name info, etc). If you select text and use the quote button it just quotes what you selecdted.

thank you, Zubaz

Zoomba
Reply #74 Monday, January 19, 2009 6:35 AM

A note for everyone.  WinCustomize Site is not the same as WinCustomize Forums.  Two different sets of code, two completely different projects.  While the look and feel of the new WC will likely be brought over to the forums, this update project isn't about extending or changing forum functionality.  If some gets in when we're not looking, that's cool, but I wouldn't expect it.

Jafo
Reply #75 Monday, January 19, 2009 7:20 AM

A note for everyone. WinCustomize Site is not the same as WinCustomize Forums. Two different sets of code, two completely different projects.

Just to add to that....it's actually three sites...and 3 sets of code.  There's the Admins'/mods' site which accesses the database for moderation/approvals.  That one's only used by a few people so it's languishing a bit back into the last millennium [almost]...

The one mentioned/shown by Frogboy is actually the Skin site itself, not the forums...

angus1949
Reply #76 Monday, January 19, 2009 9:58 AM

So are you saying that the forums site it's self is going to remain basically the same with all of it's current problematic issues?

Zoomba
Reply #77 Monday, January 19, 2009 11:35 AM

angus1949
So are you saying that the forums site it's self is going to remain basically the same with all of it's current problematic issues?

If time permits, we may be able to address some forum issues.  But the only thing we can really say for sure is that the visuals of the forum will be changed to match the site itself (headers, colors, footers, links etc).

RomanDA
Reply #78 Monday, January 19, 2009 11:56 AM

looking good..

 

I would LOVE to see the "watchlist" come back and send me email again.

Daiwa
Reply #79 Monday, January 19, 2009 12:00 PM

@Zoomba -

Thanks for the clarification.  Please re-file my comments in the 'Forums' suggestion box.

Zoomba
Reply #80 Monday, January 19, 2009 12:07 PM

A follow-up, since there seems to be some confusion over how the whole wincustomize site is broken  apart and what is actually part of the main site and what isn't...

WinCustomize as users experience it has three components:

  • WinCustomize Main (www, skin galleries, uploading, downloading, skin pages, skin comments)
  • Personal Pages (i.e. zoomba.wincustomize.com, has photo galleries, guestbook features, stats etc)
  • Forums (forums.wincustomize.com)

The forums, due to their cross-site nature (every Stardock site shares the same core forum code, with each site having it's own forum "skin") need to generally be worked on as a separate project.

WinCustomize Main and the Personal Pages are where this project comes in.  A complete update of those systems to make them perform better, look better and provide a much better user experience than the site we have today (which is difficult to navigate to say the least).  This is a massive undertaking given the complexity of the site and the volume of content we work with.

The obscured preview at the start of this thread is only the beginning.  Like I said, the mockups I saw last week were impressive and far-reaching. 

Now, does this mean no forum love is upcoming?  Not necessarily.  We have been rolling out fixes and updates to the forums continually over the last year that have added considerable functionality and speed improvements.  When we have spare dev time, we take a crack at the forums again.  My earlier point was just that this major rework is focused first and foremost on the main site (and personal pages) and not the forums.  I apologize if it came across as anything else.

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