Hell even ther support is slow now my last support ticket is still not answered after little more then a week!

Precisely, while Start8/Start10 are important for additions for Stardock and the new OSes, the core apps of ObjectDesktop have been neglected, like IconPackager, for instance, and long-time users have been let down.  For me, and I'm sure many other users, IconPackager is a KEY component that completes the UI transformation and helps create an entire desktop theme.  Without it, something is missing, so IP needs some TLC and updating to ensure users are provided a complete desktop experience on all OSes, rather than something that's only half done.

Pity, that noone ist caring for our concerns. Been there, left frustrated. There are tons of postings trying to help with bug reports and good suggestions for IP and others rotting in the dated forums.

Oh, crap! I was one of those idiots that just purchased Object Desktop because I moved from Win7 to Win10 and I wanted to customize the appearance of Win10. Now I see that most of Object Desktop doesn't even apply for Win10! None of the themes at Wincustomize work, what was the point of buying this? I had already purchased Start10, and I bought Object Dock a few years ago (and it isn't even included in the Object Desktop suite, so what does that mean? Is it also fading away?) Is there any way to get a refund? I seriously have no use for Object Desktop on Win10 aside from Start10, which I had already bought standalone.

Reading this thread doesn't fill me with optimism that Win10 will ever be supported by Stardock UI development the way earlier versions of Windows evidently were. I just have great timing, I guess.

The apps within the suite are being worked on for Windows 10, as has been stated. Please be patient while they are developed/updated.

Keep an eye on this page for any updates:

https://forums.stardock.com/469435/page/1/ 

Object Dock has never been included in the Object Desktop suite, it's always been separate for whatever reason.  Its being separate now doesn't really mean anything one way or the other.

This is true. I recently bought both ODNT and Objectdock. Two separate programs, two separate prices. Well worth the investment. IMO

Thanks for that, The_Gear. I am confident Stardock devs can kick Win10 UI into shape if they set themselves to do so. Keep up the good work, much appreciated!

Yeah, I guess I was just confused since the names ObjectDock and Object Desktop are so similar, and since the latter is a suite filled with a bunch of Stardock UI modifications that can also be purchased separately, I just assumed it would include the Dock element as well.

I sincerely hope that includes Iconpackager... my renewing my subscription may well depend on it.

Only that ObjectDock has unsolved problems too. Speak: 64bit apps.

You'll see "In Development" for any being worked on.

https://www.stardock.com/products/odnt/download.asp, even though it can still be found here https://www.stardock.com/products/  I guess we need some sort of official word on IP.

 Oddly enough, ThemeMangler is still included although it hasn't worked right in years.  BTW, if you click on TM or the Learn More link here https://www.stardock.com/products/odnt/index.asp , it takes you to WFX. Even the announcement for TM is broken, lol.

Launch is listed in my downloads, but not included in IslandDog's list of Windows 10 apps.  Odd....

And has Windows 10 support: https://www.stardock.com/products/launch/

Actually one of the big questions is about "IconPackager" It doesn't say "In Development" So guess since nothing has been done with it for a while again the question. Will it be "In Development? People for the most part are being patient however a direct answer to at least some of the direct questions would be very helpful Thank you,

Icon Packager has been half assed for YEARS now. Oh it worked fine and served the purpose while installed, but once you uninstalled it your system was borked unless you manually performed some corrections ( i believe by changing some registry keys ). The issue was brought up years ago and ignored, and ignored, and ignored. 

All that seems important anymore is trying to make your system look like a Windows version that is now 3 versions old instead of expanding on the native OS trend and allowing IT to be customized. Yeah... that's REAL genuine customization for you. (choke).

Skinning is pretty well dead now unless you want to hang on to yesteryear and even then you can't get 100% there.

Honestly, I have to assume that this is due to MS restrictions. If it weren't, then someone else would have picked up the dropped ball and ran with it by now.

Get real. SD is primarily a GAME and Windows app/utility company anymore.

Pretty right re ms restrictions...life gets hard on the cutting ed ge of modding windows..since 7 and beyond.

With 10 being life according to ms for the next forever thing it's reasonable to expect there will be a window of opportunity left open long enough for people to take advantage and develop something half-decent....

If only.......

I was afraid of that!  thing is, I can run Iconpackager on Win 8.1, albeit in a reduced capacity: re; live folders, so how hard can it be to update to be fully compatible with Win 8.1 and 10?  Last I heard, system icons weren't hard coded or anything.  And if IP can offer the option for users to choose the path/directory to where the packages are stored, then it shouldn't be too difficult to include paths/directories to swap desktop shortcut icons that are not included in the system exchange.

Of late, we have seen many updates for the newer apps such as Start8 [now Start10], and I'm grateful for that, being an 8.1 user, but many of the core OD apps have either been neglected or developmentally dropped entirely, and I believe that has had an adverse effect on the long-term/core users who have been there since the early days.  For mine, these users are the backbone of Stardock's customer base, and to leave them wanting is not a good idea.

Okay, so there are those who say skinning is dead, but why is that.  Could it be that core apps have been neglected or discontinued?  Could it be that it has become too time intensive and difficult to use SkinStudio?  If one goes over to devart and looks in the MSStyles section, it can be seen to be thriving with daily submissions, and those skins/themes can change system icons, so skinning is not dead.  Not at all!

Now I much prefer to use Stardock apps to customise my desktop, but with so many apps discontinued or far behind the times in terms of updating/development, I am questioning whether I will continue to do so.  Win 10's system icons are butt ugly at best, so without Iconpackager to complete the UI transformation, it is most unlikely I will ever upgrade to it as a primary OS.... unless MSSTyles can transform the entire desktop to my liking.  For me, the entire desktop needs to be skinned to be aesthetically pleasing/complete, and I'm sure most long-term users feel the same... that IP needs some TLC and updating.

Sorry, Stardock, I don't often complain, but you have dropped the bundle on a number of core skinning apps.  Since 2004 I have mostly been happy with the apps and service, but over the last couple of years or so I have had to question whether I would continue my OD subscription because, honestly, updates and development of core apps has been far and few between. 

If it were only me, I suppose I could easily be dismissed, but the complaints are coming from numerous users right across the forums, so I'm not an isolated whinger who isn't happy,