How can forums compete with Reddit?
Friday, December 25, 2020 by Frogboy | Discussion: Everything Else
I'll be honest with you. I spend a lot of time on Reddit.
One can see a direct correlation between the rice of Reddit (and to a lesser extent Twitter and Facebook) and the fall of blogs and forums.
And I think that's a shame because the nice thing about forums is that you get to know the regulars and there are many nice features on forums that Reddit doesn't have.
Still, the UI on many forums, including ours, is not as good as I'd like to see. Which makes me wonder, what would it take to make forums more competitive to Reddit? What would they need for you to come visit more?
One reason I ask is that over the next 18 months Stardock is going to be releasing a lot of stuff and we'd like to get our forums in shape to hopefully offer a fun and useful place to spend time at.
In 2020, we did a number of behind the scenes updates that regulars might have noticed (for instance, the entire backend got a huge upgrade making everything much faster). But there's a lot of UX stuff that we don't have a consistent opinion on which shows.
So we're asking you, what are 5 things you would do to these forums that would make you and other more inclined to visit?
Reply #2 Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:25 AM
There are subreddits I've been in where you get to know the regulars pretty well, but the examples I can think of were ones that moved from another forum to reddit. I only ever visit about 3 subreddits, and Discord is actually the social site I interact with most. I rarely use twitter, and Facebook is something I drop by once every 2 weeks to see what my family is up to...
I'm not sure what would make me browse forums directly, I actually have very little time for social media anymore. I think the thing that got me to stop using Joe User as a blog was mostly technical issues with the RSS feeds, but I can't remember the exact problems I was encountering. I mostly just moved to a Jekyll based blog, and Pleroma based Microblog.
Yea, I used to live on RSS feeds until Google killed their service with it.
Reply #4 Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:29 PM
One thing I would like is ability to attached images in post as groups instead of one at a time. To be able to go to a library and select multiple images at once for upload.
Reply #5 Sunday, December 27, 2020 10:12 PM
I would agree that the priority should probably be Discord. Creating a community where you can post a question and there's people who will start discussing it immediately is great. It flows so much nicer than any forum could. However, the moment you want to go back and reference something, forums are far superior. I think there's colossal synergy between Reddit and Discord, which is what makes so many subreddits and servers thrive.
Reply #6 Sunday, December 27, 2020 10:42 PM
However, the moment you want to go back and reference something, forums are far superior.
Yep....I really can't handle those systems that create branches in their conversations....they're a navigation nightmare being non-sequential as time-lines.
Conversations should be linear. Time is linear...
Reply #7 Monday, December 28, 2020 10:33 PM
I use a program to write my message and then
paste it into the box on the forum.
It gets double spaced when I do this.
I do this because I use my spell check
and if the browser crashes I don't have to start over.
I would request a single spacing when I paste.
Reply #8 Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:12 AM
I use a program to write my message and then
paste it into the box on the forum.
It gets double spaced when I do this.
I do this because I use my spell check
and if the browser crashes I don't have to start over.
I would request a single spacing when I paste.
You may want to look into the program you are using. I used notepad and it doesn't seem to set double spacing when pasting into the forum for posting.
Test with new line that is not double spaced in notepad.
Manually double spaced this paragraph.
Reply #9 Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:28 PM
If you like the way the spacing works, it is fine for me the way it is.
Reply #10 Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:40 PM
and if the browser crashes I don't have to start over.
Iben...all you need to do is type directly into the form....select all and copy....then press 'post reply'.
If it crashes...you have the lost text still...to repost...
Been doing that for yonks.
Reply #11 Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:41 PM
and if the browser crashes I don't have to start over.
Iben...all you need to do is type directly into the form....select all and copy....then press 'post reply'.
If it crashes...you have the lost text still...to repost...
Been doing that for yonks.
....and here it is...
Reply #12 Wednesday, December 30, 2020 2:09 PM
Well I think that forums are superior. Discord has a section for bug reports. There’s no reason we couldn’t have that hear, we just don’t. A section to explain the what updates do like discord would be nice. A section for known bugs would be nice. This would help. Make it easier to make a avatar.
the forums have slowed down. More posts from your employees.
Reply #13 Tuesday, January 19, 2021 10:53 PM
Well I think that forums are superior. Discord has a section for bug reports. There’s no reason we couldn’t have that hear, we just don’t. A section to explain the what updates do like discord would be nice. A section for known bugs would be nice. This would help. Make it easier to make a avatar.
the forums have slowed down. More posts from your employees.
We do have a forum bug reports forum, I just don't know which site it's on.
But fundamentally, what our forums need is a general overhaul/update. The backend tech has been frequently updated over the years as you may have noticed how fast things are these days. But the front-end is still essentially 2001 era.
Reply #14 Wednesday, February 3, 2021 7:27 AM
Imho it is not reddit forums are competing, but rather discord.
Another imho - for more active forums, there should be a better multiplayer support.
Single player people come to forums, mostly when they encounter bugs. They rarely discuss stuff happening in the game (especially if there is no campaign).
Multiplayer people are however a stronger backbone, as those people return to games more frequent, and therefore they care more. And since they care more, they spend their time on thinking about stuff around the game. And once the process of thinking has been done, a post is being created on a forum.
Forums are a place of interactions. Multiplayer people are the ones, who are willing to interact with other people the most.
Therefore - the bigger the multiplayer - the more people willing to interact with other people.
So in the end, it is not as much about what the forum misses, it's more about, how to get more people into multiplayer, so that there are more people willing to interact with others.
Reply #15 Wednesday, February 3, 2021 2:36 PM
Imho it is not reddit forums are competing, but rather discord.
Another imho - for more active forums, there should be a better multiplayer support.
Single player people come to forums, mostly when they encounter bugs. They rarely discuss stuff happening in the game (especially if there is no campaign).
Multiplayer people are however a stronger backbone, as those people return to games more frequent, and therefore they care more. And since they care more, they spend their time on thinking about stuff around the game. And once the process of thinking has been done, a post is being created on a forum.
Forums are a place of interactions. Multiplayer people are the ones, who are willing to interact with other people the most.
Therefore - the bigger the multiplayer - the more people willing to interact with other people.
So in the end, it is not as much about what the forum misses, it's more about, how to get more people into multiplayer, so that there are more people willing to interact with others.
I love forums and hate multi-player (specifically in the case of 4x games). I don't think people not liking multi-player keeps them from posting on forums at all. There are many, many forums that are mostly, if not entirely, filled by single player game people.
I do agree that a big chunk of the competition is discord. But the thing is, discord is terrible for long term solutions. It is great for communication between devs and the community, especially in early release situations where both quick and back-and-forth conversations are ideal. I just don't see people going to discord and doing searches to find answers that have long been answered. EVERY person asks the same question over again. Reading the FAQs that may be on the Discord servers, lol, unheard of!
Reddit is kind of the competition of forums, but one of the biggest actual competitors are the Steam forums. Many gamers expect and demand (sometimes in a very condescending and/or entitled way) that every game has to have a Steam forum and that forum MUST be the main forum for the game. If that is the game devs decision I am perfectly fine with that. But I am also fine with those forums being just what they are labeled by Steam.. which is "Steam Community Forums" with emphasis on the word Community in my opinion. And a game having their own website forum setup is great IMO. Another password... meh, big deal, that is exactly why I use a password manager.
Reply #16 Friday, February 5, 2021 6:42 AM
I am not saying that SP people should be ignored in any way.
However it's very obvious, that a player involved into multiplayer has the same amount of topics to talk about + multiplayer topics. And therefore a MP player converts into more forum interactions.
Also if you do not like MP, that's your choice. But statistically if a person plays MP, he comes more often back to the game. And if he comes more often back to the game, he will likely come more often to the forums.
Reply #17 Friday, February 5, 2021 11:16 AM
Except most of us has been playing the game for years. A lot have been playing since before three.
That’s not fair to the multiplayers, since we’ve only had multiplayer in three. The problem comes in the single player like me love the game; because, of the game. While multiplayers; usually like the game because of multiplayer.
I do think that multiplayer needs to be fixed.
Reply #18 Friday, February 5, 2021 11:17 AM
The forums are organized well. I just think it can be done better.
Reply #19 Monday, February 8, 2021 7:40 AM
The forums are organized well. I just think it can be done better.
I strongly disagree with that assessment. The way the various forums and sub-forums are laid out, it tends to be a chore to find what you're looking for (often because it's not in the forum you'd expect to find it). Some reorganizing and streamlining is definitely in order.
That being said, I still prefer forums, all else being equal.
Reply #20 Monday, February 8, 2021 8:29 AM
The forums are organized well. I just think it can be done better.
I strongly disagree with that assessment. The way the various forums and sub-forums are laid out, it tends to be a chore to find what you're looking for (often because it's not in the forum you'd expect to find it). Some reorganizing and streamlining is definitely in order.
I agree with this. Some of the stuff flows throughout all the forums, some stuff does not. It seems to matter which site you are logging into, as to which stuff you will see.
There are some caveats to that, I think you do see all of your "my replies" "my posts" "subscriptions" etc, no matter what. But some of the other stuff is not consistent across the various sites.
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Reply #1 Saturday, December 26, 2020 7:48 AM
There are subreddits I've been in where you get to know the regulars pretty well, but the examples I can think of were ones that moved from another forum to reddit. I only ever visit about 3 subreddits, and Discord is actually the social site I interact with most. I rarely use twitter, and Facebook is something I drop by once every 2 weeks to see what my family is up to...
I'm not sure what would make me browse forums directly, I actually have very little time for social media anymore. I think the thing that got me to stop using Joe User as a blog was mostly technical issues with the RSS feeds, but I can't remember the exact problems I was encountering. I mostly just moved to a Jekyll based blog, and Pleroma based Microblog.