Start11 v2 Is Ready, Now with Rounded Taskbars and a Lot More

Turn your taskbar into a modern experience with new style options

Wednesday, November 8, 2023 by BradSams | Discussion: Software Blog

Today is the day, Start11 v2 is ready for prime time – we are taking the Release Preview tag off and adding new features. Rolling out now is the latest version of Start11 v2 with new features for the taskbar as well as a significant number of bugs being squashed.

If you want a deeper dive into many of the new features in Start11 v2, check out this earlier post from the release preview, but there have been a couple of additions since our initial release. Especially the updates for the taskbar - let's dive in.

Easily the biggest request we got after announcing Start11 v2 was the option to round the corners of the taskbar and we are happy to share that this feature is now included in the release today. And, not only can you round the corners, but in true Stardock fashion, you can fully customize the layout with various options to dial in the perfect taskbar for your desktop.

To begin building your modern taskbar, click on the Taskbar option in Start11 v2, then click the Taskbar blur, transparency, color, and rounded corners dropdown menu. From there you can select the intensity of the rounded corners, your preferred offsets on both the X and Y axis, and more.

One of the neat features that is included is how the taskbar can adapt if you are using a full-screen app. When a taskbar is floating with rounded corners, it can create an odd visual experience on the sides and below the taskbar when using an app that spans the entire display. To help reduce this visual irregularity, you can have the taskbar dynamically adapt to a traditional style layout when a full-screen app is detected.

These are the little things that add up that make Start11 v2 a truly great experience on Windows 10 and Windows 11. While the work is never done and we will continue to monitor feedback and patch bugs, this is a major milestone that we are crossing as we have taken Start11 from a product that brought back old features of Windows to a new era where we are adding new functionality that makes Windows a little more personal and a lot more productive.

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Neil Banfield
Reply #41 Thursday, November 9, 2023 8:18 AM



Quoting Neil Banfield,






Quoting c242,



Still unsolved.




Which style is that with what settings exactly?



Windows Launcher, Username and -icon set to hide (I think, that is the problem). I would prefer the shutdown icon on the bottom, also.

Really minor issues though, V2 is fantastic!



Note the Rustdesk icon being huge although it is set to 'middle' as the other icons. That is, because the groups have titles and increase the height of the row, I guess.

It 'behaves' when dropped to another tab.


That would seem to be working correctly.  Icons have to be a multiple of the smallest line.  So adding text means the lines are taller so one thats 2x the height will now be taller.

PhoenixRising1
Reply #42 Thursday, November 9, 2023 12:37 PM

Neil Banfield

That would seem to be working correctly. Icons have to be a multiple of the smallest line. So adding text means the lines are taller so one thats 2x the height will now be taller.

The resizing looks pretty good with the Windows 10 theme. But I feel the sizing scheme on the Windows 11 themes increases a bit too much regardless of if text is used or not for the icons. Going from small to medium is a pretty big jump in size for the menu style.

Neil Banfield
Reply #43 Thursday, November 9, 2023 12:51 PM

PhoenixRising1


Quoting Neil Banfield,

That would seem to be working correctly. Icons have to be a multiple of the smallest line. So adding text means the lines are taller so one thats 2x the height will now be taller.



The resizing looks pretty good with the Windows 10 theme. But I feel the sizing scheme on the Windows 11 themes increases a bit too much regardless of if text is used or not for the icons. Going from small to medium is a pretty big jump in size for the menu style.

Thats because there needs to be two lines of text.  Unfortunately things have to be a multiple of the lines so it is what it is.

BradSams
Reply #44 Friday, November 10, 2023 8:23 PM

🚨We have a new build that we believe will address some of the issues brought up in this feedback thread including:🚨

1) Reduced a flicker when minimizing/restoring a window from the taskbar using the mouse

2) Resolved sub menus showing on popup folder menus being shifted too far right on Win11 setups

3) Tweak to extra control panel item showing

4) Resolved issue with rounded taskbar causing clipped taskbars on the primary monitor when using a touch-capable device with Win11 22H2 or later

5) Resolved issue with taskbar offsets on the secondary monitor without enhanced taskbar enabled not working correctly

6) Tweaked shutdown menu to stop list under it taking focus sometimes

7) Resolved issue with Win7/Modern style jumplists sometimes showing each item too small after switching menu modes

8) Resolved all apps / steam apps list not working from a pinned taskbar folder if you are using the Win7/Modern menu styles

9) Resolved issue with sub menus showing far left of the screen when they would not fit next to the open menu on multi column menus

10) Resolved issue with new Start11 autohide taskbar mode triggering too far from the bottom of the screen vs the primary

11) Resolved issue with Win 7/modern menu with Win10 style all apps tree not having Show Recently installed and suggested apps not refreshing the list instantly

12) Resolved issue with right-hand list on start menu flickering over search results during animation to switch to search mode sometimes with Win 7/modern menu styles

13) Resolved issue with leftover tooltip after launching an app from the menu if the tooltip was visible at the time

14) Resolved Win Launcher menu style when hiding search and username causing shutdown to overlap contents of the list

This build is out of our normal testing workflow and may have more bugs or unforeseen issues because of limited testing. This is our standard boilerplate warning for all out-of-band releases.

Download: Start11 v2 2.01

LightStar
Reply #45 Saturday, November 11, 2023 11:40 AM

Wish the text color issue on the right click menus on the taskbar and a few other areas issue would be resolved.

Neil Banfield
Reply #46 Saturday, November 11, 2023 11:50 AM

LightStar

Wish the text color issue on the right click menus on the taskbar and a few other areas issue would be resolved.

The text colour is.  Brad Sams didn't include everything in the change list it seems.

I would recommend trying it out.

LightStar
Reply #47 Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:25 PM

Guess I downloaded the same version on the Stardock site Neil. I did not really see the download link on BradSams post. I will install the new version and see what happens now.

All is well now, thanks!

c242
Reply #48 Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:50 PM

Ist the download-link gone already?

Nevermind, it's only very tiny.

Neil Banfield
Reply #49 Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:52 PM


Ist the download-link gone already?

It is at the bottom of reply 44.  

c242
Reply #50 Sunday, November 12, 2023 4:33 AM


Yeah!

Zelda Link
Reply #51 Sunday, November 12, 2023 4:38 AM

Start11 v.2.06    Windows version: W11 pro  23H2  22631.2506

The right clik on the windows button not work properly in Windows 11 style for open de menu window. 

The menu is weak and flickers, making it unusable, and its necessary click on the task bar previously for open correctly.

In addition, the mouse pointer over the windows icon not opens the Start11 menu.

 

After install v2.10 the issues has not been resolved.

Adjunt video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HaIm1slKN2qMXeWDcXwmeedCLEnikafd/view?usp=sharing).

 

Start11 v2.10  Control Menu options.jpg

 

AlekseyPopovv
Reply #52 Sunday, November 12, 2023 8:42 AM

Del

Jan Oscar
Reply #53 Sunday, November 12, 2023 9:31 AM

AlekseyPopovv

Full translation into Russian:

ru
You should post that here: https://forums.stardock.com/523176/start11-community-translations

cneeleman
Reply #54 Monday, November 13, 2023 11:58 AM

Does this also work on Windows 10? I click on rounded task bar but nothing changes. I updated to version 2

basj
Reply #55 Monday, November 13, 2023 8:22 PM

cneeleman

Does this also work on Windows 10? I click on rounded task bar but nothing changes. I updated to version 2

Hello,
Yes, it does for for me.

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

cneeleman
Reply #56 Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:46 AM

Thanks so it should work. I did check all the boxes, but nothing changes.

basj
Reply #57 Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:26 PM

cneeleman

Thanks so it should work. I did check all the boxes, but nothing changes.

Maybe you have some other application interfering with Start11.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Neil Banfield
Reply #58 Wednesday, November 15, 2023 2:14 AM

cneeleman

Thanks so it should work. I did check all the boxes, but nothing changes.

Are you using an autohide taskbar?

belayton
Reply #59 Thursday, November 16, 2023 12:11 PM

Hi Group - The upgrade price wasn't bad, but the real reason I wanted v2 is to get the Pinned Folders.

In the Beta, 2-column Pinned folders (a folder with enough files that it needs 2 columns to display) was being displayed halfway off the top of the screen.  That part has been fixed.  A couple of problems still exist, however.

  1. A 2-column Pinned folder displays at the top of the screen.  It is all visible, but stuck to the top.
  2. 2-column Pinned folders are still row ordered (left to right), rather than column-ordered.  A toggle to change from row- to column-ordered would be nice.  Windows does everything in columns...
  3. All flavors of Pinned folders use some sort of automation that makes them scroll up from the bottom when you click on the folder.  It is noticeably slow, and would be nice if there was a toggle to turn off the automation.
  4. If I had to choose between the automation and the 2-column ordering, I would choose to change to column-ordered.

My Start icons seem to change sizes, sort of at will.  Right now, they are small, though yesterday (rebooted last evening) they were larger.  I haven't changed any settings.  There is also space for another column of icons - which also seems to come and go.

I really like the Start menu background colors and patterns.  And the Taskbar patterns.

esobrant
Reply #60 Thursday, November 16, 2023 2:28 PM

Well, comment gremlins ate the comment I posted earlier (unless one of the Stardock folks can find it...).

In essence, it was:

I was glad to switch to v2, because I use the Pinned Folder feature.  It started out missing the top half of a 2-column folder, but that has been fixed.

However, there are still a couple of issues:

  1. A Pinned folder that has enough files to require more than 1 column (really, I've only seen 2 columns) is anchored against the top of the monitor, not at the bottom (like a single column).  All of the items are there, but it's at the top
  2. All of the Pinned folders use some automation (maybe?) that causes the menu to 'roll up', like pulling up a projection screen.  While cool and really nifty, it slows down the menu enough to be obvious (click folder, wait, click selection).  Would be nice to have a toggle in Setup that could turn off the automation.
  3. The order of items in a 2-column menu (1+ columns) is by row.  Windows uses column-ordered lists.  Would be nice to have a toggle that could switch between row- and column ordering.
  4. If I had to choose, I would choose column-ordering and keeping the up-scroll.

I've also had some odd behavior with the appearance of the Start Menu.  Earlier today, it looked like this:

Yesterday, and since I restarted a few minutes ago, it looks like this:

I've not made any changes to any Start11 settings, that I am aware of.  Also, automatic updates are turned off.

Finally, there is some odd behavior when right-clicking the Start button - the menu pops then disappears.  Clicking one of the folder menus, then trying the Start again seems to cure the problem.  Maybe the Event handling is not exactly right?

I really like the Start background, also the Taskbar background.

And now, I'll try Posting again!

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