PDC 2005: More Windows Vista screenshots

Here's some shots from PDC of Vista that I took...

Wednesday, September 14, 2005 by Frogboy | Discussion: PDC 2005

Vista looks good but they still haven't gotten rid of the ugly icons in some places.  PLEASE change the icons throughout the system. 

An alternative way of doing Alt-Tab. It looks good but I didn't find it that practical.  The primary Alt-Tab method is fancier than the Windows XP alt-tab but noticeably slower.  I like slick but I don't want it to noticeably slow me down and I do a lot with Alt-Tab.

The sidebar and task preview (something we are working on for WindowFX too).  The sidebar now is merely a container for gadgets which is absolutely sweet in theory.  I like the concept a lot.  However, right now, the gadgets are apparently implemented in DHTML.  I relaly don't see that as a practical thing.  I'd like to see them switch to have gadgets be Avalon based with the noborders switch on.  I think gadgets would be a great way for Microsoft to get people to start using XAML. Note: This is not necessarily what the Sidebar is going to look like in the final version. This was a beta version that was shown at PDC.

Gadgets can be pealed off and live on the desktop as well.

New file save dialog. I like the design but if you look closely, Windows classic can still peer through so there's still some fit and finish to be done there.

And for fun, here's a screenshot of my Windows XP desktop running Object Desktop with the WindowBlinds 5 beta (public beta in a week or two):

WindowBlinds 5 on XP can do semi-transparent borders and Start bars and runs fast on fairly low end hardware.  On Windows Vista, WindowBlinds 5 will make use of the new Windows Vista compositer to allow for much more advanced skinning than we've seen previously.  Much of the next-gen skinning will be back ported to Windows XP (though users with install the Avalon libraries on XP will likely benefit). 

Overall, Vista's a really good experience.  But I do hope there's an overall fit and finish guy over there so that things like ancient icons and inconsistent fonts get fixed.  Some of these icons have managed to survive since Windows NT 3.1 (1994).

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antu^jamban
Reply #21 Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:46 AM
I have a question. Does taskbar grouping still exists in Vista? If yes, does it has the taskbar preview too? Screenshot would be appreciated
GhoS
Reply #22 Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:43 PM
I got the wallpaper off a site but I can't recall where from. Just do a search for Vista Wallpaper and you should find it I think. Otherwise I guess you could click on my profile and meail me for it. I think I only have the 1280x1024 size though.

I like the alt+tab implementation at least in theory. The current one is good and I use it a lot, but occaisionally it is tough if there is more than one window of a program, then I have to read the caption. The powertoy was better, but too slow. I assume the new graphic capabilities will help Vista's be smoother.
Lotherius
Reply #23 Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:23 PM
Considering there is already a x64 version of XP, of course there will be an x64 version of Vista. But, I understand that x32 and x64 will remain separate versions


I hope users get NO CHOICE in which version installs. Why? I have an x64 - I *want* to run x64 version, no reason I shouldn't.

However, if they give ANY EXCUSE WHATSOEVER to the IHV's such as Canon to claim that 64 bit is 'not consumer', like they are right now, we won't see very much driver support at all.

I've already had to back off from using x64 because my printer and my PDA are completely unsupported in x64. No drivers at all. If Vista doesn't force x64 installs on x64 hardware, IHV's will continue to have an excuse not to upgrade drivers.

MS needs to take the lead here, and IHV's who can't bother to recode for 64 bit need to go out of business.
KML-
Reply #24 Friday, September 16, 2005 5:24 PM
I really like the refined look of Windows Vista but it reminds me a bit of Mac OSX Tiger with "Desktop Gadgets" which looks like the Widgets on Mac and "Search Bar" (which looks oddly similar to Mac's spot light). I think MS should use this oppertunity to regain the lead on Mac who have come out with some really innovative stuff (ie. OSX Pather & Tiger, G5 processors, iPod, etc.). I'm a die-hard MS fan, however it's been more and more difficult to stay loyal when Mac keeps on pumping out better software/OS's.

Also does anyone know if the windows on Vista will always be translucent or will there be a opaque one as well (or at the very least give us the option to change the transparency)? Please reply regarding this matter, Thank you.
Tominated
Reply #25 Sunday, October 9, 2005 6:59 PM
I think from what i have heard that vista will only support 64 bit systems.
Yarlen
Reply #26 Monday, October 10, 2005 8:52 AM
That's not correct. Vista will be available on 32-bit and 64-bit systems.

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