ObjectBar 2.0 in about 2 weeks

A quick preview...

Monday, August 28, 2006 by Frogboy | Discussion: ObjectBar

ObjectBar 2.0 is finally complete. Stardock will be releasing ObjectBar 2.0 on September 12th.  So what is ObjectBar and what has taken so long to go from 1.6 to 2.0?

What is ObjectBar

ObjectBar is essentially a GUI construction kit. With it, users can create their own alternative interfaces of Windows XP (and soon Windows Vista).  After all, Apple and Microsoft aren't the only ones with ideas on how the desktop interface should be done. 

ObjectBar can pretty much emulate virtually any existing desktop interface out there as well as add new twists to them or enable users to create their own.  Creations can be exported as actual programs that others can use (or the bar theme itself can be exported for those who want to trade and modify each other's designs).

ObjectBar: Two groups of users

ObjectBar content is much more involved than what is the norm in skinning.  ObjectBar content can be split up in two pieces: The actual bar theme and then the skin for the bar.  One could imagine the Windows Sidebar in Windows Vista or the Start Bar or the Mac finder as being examples of bar themes.  But beyond that, those themes can also be skinned independently.

ObjectBar skins are best when designed for the bar in question but ObjectBar can also automatically inherit your WindowBlinds skin.  The bar themes themselves are very customizeable. If the person who creates the bar theme exports it as an EXE, the user of the EXE (as long as they have ObjectBar installed) can use that bar theme as a stand alone program with a much simplified interface for adding content and tweaking what's there.  It's powerful and yet simple.

 

ObjectBar 2: Years in the making

For a long time, ObjectBar 1.x was quite popular with power users.  The problem Stardock ran into was one of support and expanding its market and deciding where it should go.  It seemed to be stuck between worlds.  Google, Microsoft, and tons of other companies have gotten into the "sidebar" business.  That is, having a vertical bar on the right side of the screen that users can insert various things into (clocks, gadgets, RSS feeds, short cuts, etc.). 

Such specialized programs tended to do what they did very well.  ObjectBar, by contrast, has been a generalist -- you could create a Sidebar with it. A fully skinnable sidebar at that.  And since ObjectBar 2 supports embedding DesktopX widgets, you could create some pretty spectacular sidebars.  But here's the problem with that -- the widgets and skins would have to be made with that particular sidebar theme in mind.

So what Stardock has done is re-imagine how ObjectBar is likely to be used.  First off, it made it so that the people who spend the time to create the bars can export them as programs.  Secondly, it has begun to try to separate the skinning from the bar creation part.  To that end, Stardock has made creating new bars somewhat more technically challenging but resulting in far more powerful and interesting bars.  On the other hand, customizing and modifying those bars has been made much easier.  Before, it was just somewhat hard to do most things but  never easy to do anything. 

 

The ObjectBar 2 Strategy

With ObjectBar 2, Stardock intends to provide a series of high quality template bar themes created by Jeff Bargmann and Treetog.  Then make it relatively easy for users to create skins for those bars.  The WinCustomize gallery will be set up so that users can upload skins that are distinct from bars.  A skinning guide has been developed and will be made available.

Since ObjectBar is a super-set of anything that any sidebar or similar program can do, it is our hope that by focusing initial effort on a handful of bar themes and then branch out from there as others create new bar themes that we can build a strong customization community for ObjectBar 2.

The key is for users to recognize that there are two elements at work here: Bar themes and skins. And while a bar theme will include a skin (by default) that users can create skins on their own.  So picture dozens of Sidebar skins or Finder bar skins or other types.

ObjectBar 2.0 on September 12th. Stay tuned!

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ZubaZ
Reply #41 Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:05 PM
It's supposed to come out today. I guess we'll hear about it pretty soon.


Where did you read/see/hear that?
vampireUK
Reply #42 Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:06 PM
looks good, think I'd rather have this than the vista sidebar .. but i like the vista gadgets so hope to see some similar of those for it

how wasy to customize to it ? pity we couldn't drag widgets onto it which would dock ..
Jan Panda
Reply #43 Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:16 PM
Where did you read/see/hear that?


Well, last week zoomba posted this.

Just an FYI, ObjectBar 2.0 has been delayed a week to allow for some final tweaks and testing. We're trying our best to make sure 2.0 is as stable and high-quality a release as possible.

I apologize for the delay.


And new releases do tend to come out on tuesdays.
Gregory2001
Reply #44 Tuesday, September 19, 2006 3:33 PM
Very nice but where are the themes shown here?
Daiwa
Reply #45 Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:30 PM
The SDC description of ObjectBar still says "for" Windows 2000 & Win XP. If it's indeed not going to be officially supported for Win2K, that should finally be changed (it's been mentioned a number of times over the past year).

And I second the suggestion that the installer should be modified to allow installation on a Win2K rig if it "should" work even if not officially supported.

Is there documentation describing which graphics it pulls for what from where when using the "Use Windowblinds Skin" setting?

Thanks. Been looking forward to OB2 forever, it seems, especially because 1.65 is so crippled on Win2k.
alalamimi12
Reply #46 Friday, June 29, 2007 2:20 AM
where can i find the ObjectBar about world of warcraft
kin242
Reply #47 Friday, June 29, 2007 3:27 AM
I'm really hoping these vista-fied relaunches are going to revitalise these products. I have always found the likes of objectbar and desktopX to be too buggy and prone to re-organising themselves at random to be of any practical use to me... I'm really hoping and praying that this will be the iteration that finally gets it right useability-wise...

Fingers crossed!
ZubaZ
Reply #48 Friday, June 29, 2007 7:58 AM
where can i find the ObjectBar about world of warcraft
Many OB bars can apply a WB skin.  Find one you like and go for it.  Other than that . . you may have to build your own.

I have always found the likes of objectbar and desktopX to be too buggy and prone to re-organising themselves at random to be of any practical use to me
  I haven't seen that in a few builds now.  You might want to try again.
I'm really hoping and praying that this will be the iteration that finally gets it right useability-wise...
What's missing now?  Without feedback Stardock doesn't know what needs tweaking.  I think OB crosses the line out of customization and into productivity and is really personal to each user.  My bar fits me perfectly but may be useless for soemone else.  Nature of the beast.
ClassicNancy
Reply #49 Friday, July 13, 2007 2:29 AM
When will this work in Vista?? I miss it.    I just got the new beta today and is still just for XP
ZubaZ
Reply #50 Friday, July 13, 2007 7:39 AM
I'm using OB in Vista and everything is working (except the CPU meter plug-in).

From the Changelog:
2.10d beta
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-System tray support redone ; Vista now supported, overall reliability increased
-Taskbar handling improved ; Elevated applications will now show on the taskbar in Vista
-Fixed issues involving ObjectBar being ran “as administrator” under Vista.
-Taskbar hiding improved ; under Vista, the start button itself will now properly hide itself.
-Various other improvements involving Vista compatibility
Purrdy
Reply #51 Sunday, July 15, 2007 2:56 AM
Every time I change my WB skin Object Bar crashes? I also can't get widgets to stay on the bar...
rtonerii
Reply #52 Monday, October 15, 2007 8:32 PM
Hi Frogboy,
I just noticed you released ObjectBar. Is there any plans on adding menu searching like Vista has? I have seen some nice Skins that I can use to make my XP system look like Vista. One feature I see that is missing is the way Vista menu works. I have a new laptop that has the search feature and it is SOOOOOO nice. Maybe? Please?

Thanks
Rick

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