O.k., so..........
Not real impressed
Thursday, September 21, 2006 by TheGuyPC | Discussion: Windows Vista
I suppose I should be thanking my lucky stars. I downloaded Vista and was able to run "Ultimate" without many problems at all. I had to do 0 (yes zero) driver updates and, short of a lack of compatibility with MSN Premium (go figure), everything worked great.
But I assume that MS is counting on the third parties to sell this. There is little, if anything, that I cannot do already. From security to eye-candy, it's soooooo yesterday (as my daughter might say)
I watched the video that Brad put out. It showed me a couple of things that I didn't know. (I would expect this as he very well should know more than I). But I haven't seen any reason to upgrade. The hardware expectations are extreme for the average home user. Frankly, I would council them to spend $50 on OD and get some free programs I know of.....they would be set for the most part.
If the Vista Basic is "Crap" as was said in the video, why bother? At the prices they are talking about? I can't justify that kind of money to anyone. What would I say?
I like the new security features...but I can easily accomplish the same with the programs I already own...(many free)... and a little common sense.
Microsoft has done a fantastic job of getting rid of many of the problems of Vista. But at what cost? There is really nothing new or special here for me. I haven't seen the possibilities...granted. But this is going to fall flat on it's face if they are counting on the general public to be visionary.
I remain amazed at how well it installed and ran. But disappointed at the outcome. I disconnected my hdd in less than 24 hours and went back to enjoying XP. (Which friggin' flew with this setup)
Without big changes...added features...OR SOMETHING, I wouldn't bother to chalk up the hefty amount they want. No way.
Pounce
PC
But I assume that MS is counting on the third parties to sell this. There is little, if anything, that I cannot do already. From security to eye-candy, it's soooooo yesterday (as my daughter might say)
I watched the video that Brad put out. It showed me a couple of things that I didn't know. (I would expect this as he very well should know more than I). But I haven't seen any reason to upgrade. The hardware expectations are extreme for the average home user. Frankly, I would council them to spend $50 on OD and get some free programs I know of.....they would be set for the most part.
If the Vista Basic is "Crap" as was said in the video, why bother? At the prices they are talking about? I can't justify that kind of money to anyone. What would I say?
I like the new security features...but I can easily accomplish the same with the programs I already own...(many free)... and a little common sense.
Microsoft has done a fantastic job of getting rid of many of the problems of Vista. But at what cost? There is really nothing new or special here for me. I haven't seen the possibilities...granted. But this is going to fall flat on it's face if they are counting on the general public to be visionary.
I remain amazed at how well it installed and ran. But disappointed at the outcome. I disconnected my hdd in less than 24 hours and went back to enjoying XP. (Which friggin' flew with this setup)
Without big changes...added features...OR SOMETHING, I wouldn't bother to chalk up the hefty amount they want. No way.
Pounce
PC
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Slayer_68
Reply #22 Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:27 AM
Reply #22 Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:27 AM
This same stupid argument happens in every iteration of the Windows OS. It's played, its tired and face it; if you use a computer you will eventually end up with Vista because support for XP will be gone. Thats like arguing that your Pentium 60 still runs Windows 95 and your happy enough with that....
TheGuyPC
Reply #23 Friday, February 2, 2007 4:36 AM
Reply #23 Friday, February 2, 2007 4:36 AM
O.k., I see how it goes around here.
Windows Vista is the GREATEST THING SINCE BUTTERED BREAD! They should RAISE the price! Why does Microsoft deny itself the rewards that it seeks? It's those bastard liberal lefty's again! Can't let a guy make an honest couple billion!
Now are all of you happy? This place is such a joke. Don't create a forum if you don't want to hear EVERYONE'S opinion! Better yet, don't criticize another person's opinion if you have NO EXPERIENCE with the software that you speak of! Blue Dev? You are EXACTLY what is wrong with this place. Create your own f'n quotes, personally attack someone for no good reason at all. That's exactly how all of this "shit on you", "shit on me" got started. But you damn sure cash that check that I helped pay for don't you? KMA Do it thrice!
PC
Windows Vista is the GREATEST THING SINCE BUTTERED BREAD! They should RAISE the price! Why does Microsoft deny itself the rewards that it seeks? It's those bastard liberal lefty's again! Can't let a guy make an honest couple billion!
Now are all of you happy? This place is such a joke. Don't create a forum if you don't want to hear EVERYONE'S opinion! Better yet, don't criticize another person's opinion if you have NO EXPERIENCE with the software that you speak of! Blue Dev? You are EXACTLY what is wrong with this place. Create your own f'n quotes, personally attack someone for no good reason at all. That's exactly how all of this "shit on you", "shit on me" got started. But you damn sure cash that check that I helped pay for don't you? KMA Do it thrice!
PC
Uvah
Reply #24 Friday, February 2, 2007 5:17 AM
Reply #24 Friday, February 2, 2007 5:17 AM
Vista is what you want it to be...nothing more...nothing less...period. I run XP pro SP2. PC mag rates Vista as running slower than XP on most machines. Runs better on dual core machines. So if you want the big bang buy the dual core and then Vista. As for price, while it is high, if you want something bad enough you'll go for it. As for performance in general...my XP on my machine already does what MS says Vista can do so why upgrade. If I see the need then I'll go for it and not until. I'll wait until it settles in a bit first. I do not mean any criticism of anyone's opinion as you all are untitled to it. But to get that angry...what's the point.
ZubaZ
Reply #25 Friday, February 2, 2007 6:06 AM
Reply #25 Friday, February 2, 2007 6:06 AM
Guy . . . this post died a natural forum death back in November. Why are you resurrecting it just to complain about forum community?
You added no new value to the thread.
You added no new value to the thread.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #26 Friday, February 2, 2007 6:21 AM
Cause he gets 2 weeks of meds at a time but runs out a few days short of a refill.
Reply #26 Friday, February 2, 2007 6:21 AM
| Why are you resurrecting it just to complain about forum community? |
Cause he gets 2 weeks of meds at a time but runs out a few days short of a refill.
ZubaZ
Reply #27 Friday, February 2, 2007 6:28 AM
LMFAO
Reply #27 Friday, February 2, 2007 6:28 AM
| Cause he gets 2 weeks of meds at a time but runs out a few days short of a refill. |
LMFAO
MySecret
Reply #28 Friday, February 2, 2007 7:03 AM
Please do not compare apples to oranges
Most of US do not criticize. 
Most of us read these forums in order to hear others opinions and maybe learn more about the topic and voice our opinion. I just don't want these forums or myself judged according to another's action. Our opinions may be strongly voiced but it doesn't mean we don't want to hear your response.
This forum has become a great place to be without the usual personal flaming that was seen in the past. So I will ask Blue Dev to post your opinion freely without including flaming or personal attacks.
Now back to topic. My computer is able to handle Vista Ultimate without any upgrades but my reasons for waiting include letting the dust settle, waiting for the 3rd party programs to take advantage of Ultimate's WOW factor, as well as the sp that is sure to arrive.
I use 90% opensource and 3rd part free programs to keep my computer both clean and running smoothly. I have XP PRO sp2 and have never installed any windows updates, critical or otherwise. I don't get virus's, trojans or spyware.
So the stability and security advantages are of no value to me. It is simply the WOW factor and has nothing to do with flexing my arms
Xp is supported by Microsoft until 2014 but Vista will become the * OS to use. So when I can get more WOW factor out of Vista than XP I will install.
I enjoy reading the reviews regardless of whether you have installed Vista or not so keep them coming
It's My Secret
Reply #28 Friday, February 2, 2007 7:03 AM
| Now are all of you happy? This place is such a joke. |
Please do not compare apples to oranges
Most of US do not criticize. 
Most of us read these forums in order to hear others opinions and maybe learn more about the topic and voice our opinion. I just don't want these forums or myself judged according to another's action. Our opinions may be strongly voiced but it doesn't mean we don't want to hear your response. This forum has become a great place to be without the usual personal flaming that was seen in the past. So I will ask Blue Dev to post your opinion freely without including flaming or personal attacks.
Now back to topic. My computer is able to handle Vista Ultimate without any upgrades but my reasons for waiting include letting the dust settle, waiting for the 3rd party programs to take advantage of Ultimate's WOW factor, as well as the sp that is sure to arrive.
I use 90% opensource and 3rd part free programs to keep my computer both clean and running smoothly. I have XP PRO sp2 and have never installed any windows updates, critical or otherwise. I don't get virus's, trojans or spyware.
So the stability and security advantages are of no value to me. It is simply the WOW factor and has nothing to do with flexing my arms
Xp is supported by Microsoft until 2014 but Vista will become the * OS to use. So when I can get more WOW factor out of Vista than XP I will install.I enjoy reading the reviews regardless of whether you have installed Vista or not so keep them coming
It's My Secret
Fairyy~
Reply #29 Friday, February 2, 2007 7:50 AM
Sorry - I really didn't find that funny at all.
But I guess I'm just the cheese that stands alone when it comes to not joining in on the "make fun of Guy PC wagon "
Just because he has made statements that you don't agree with doesn;t mean you always have to jump on it everytime to make a joke - whats wrong with just saying nothing ?
Reply #29 Friday, February 2, 2007 7:50 AM
| Cause he gets 2 weeks of meds at a time but runs out a few days short of a refill. |
Sorry - I really didn't find that funny at all.
But I guess I'm just the cheese that stands alone when it comes to not joining in on the "make fun of Guy PC wagon "
Just because he has made statements that you don't agree with doesn;t mean you always have to jump on it everytime to make a joke - whats wrong with just saying nothing ?
ZubaZ
Reply #30 Friday, February 2, 2007 10:11 AM
Reply #30 Friday, February 2, 2007 10:11 AM
Fairyy, I did find Night train's comment funny. Whether it was directed at PC or anyone. The fact was that the post was effectivly dead until he ranted again. My initial commentwas directed at his rant. It's a cry for attention if you ask me.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #31 Friday, February 2, 2007 10:25 AM
If nothing is said he will continue to go about stinking the place up. If your neighbors dog is always crapping on your lawn, eventually your gonna throw the sh!t back at him.
Reply #31 Friday, February 2, 2007 10:25 AM
| Just because he has made statements that you don't agree with doesn;t mean you always have to jump on it everytime to make a joke - whats wrong with just saying nothing ?[/quote] Fairry... I would normally agree with your perspective but what you don't/haven't seen is the messages GuyPC posts and then deletes or edits before anyone else sees. I have seen quite a few before he edited them and I am sure you would agree that he is unstable, needs help, and is most certainly unfit for any sort of public communication. [quote]whats wrong with just saying nothing ? |
If nothing is said he will continue to go about stinking the place up. If your neighbors dog is always crapping on your lawn, eventually your gonna throw the sh!t back at him.
Fairyy~
Reply #32 Friday, February 2, 2007 11:27 AM
Reply #32 Friday, February 2, 2007 11:27 AM
Actually I have read all the threads - I just usually say nothing. Sometimes he writes some interesting stuff - sometimes its a bit hostile - but I've also seen lots antagonize an already volatile situation. When someone is agitated - sometimes saying nothing just lets it fade away.I like to joke around too - God knows I put the S in sarcasm, I just don't like to make jokes about meds people might or might not be on - I've had friends that live in hell because of mental illness.
[quote] Zubaz: My initial comment was directed at his rant. It's a cry for attention if you ask me.
Go back on XP Peasant thread - I'll make fun of you over there
I just don't like to make jokes about meds people might or might not be on - I've had friends that live in hell because of mental illness. [quote] Zubaz: My initial comment was directed at his rant. It's a cry for attention if you ask me.
Go back on XP Peasant thread - I'll make fun of you over there
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Reply #21 Sunday, October 1, 2006 3:26 AM
Not I, boss....don't order pizzas or fast food. I'm already carrying several extra kilos without going for any of that finger lickin greasy stuff, and I don't want my missus needing a water bottle and packed lunch to walk around me to check if the new threads I might wanna buy look okay on.
The wife and I may eat out once in a blue moon at a fav pub that does a fantastic 'roast of the day' special for five bucks each, but other than that we shop wisely and eat at home. However, I do agree that many will complain about Vista being too highly priced, while living the high life of drinking, gambling and eating in fancy restaurants...other pleasures that don't come at all cheap.
For me it's a matter of priorities. If you want something badly enough, you'll do without the luxuries and 'don't needs' to get it..which is how I managed to deck out my custom rig with all I want/need and give me a Vista experience of 4.6. However, when I hear people complaining about Vista's price range, it usually comes down to comparisons between XP and Vista, that Vista is "way over-priced for just an OS" and just not an economical upgrade when they're more than happy with XP. So if that's the general sentiment across the buying public, from a sales point of view, then perhaps MS should reconsider its Vista pricing to help make it a more attractive package to those sitting on the fence because of price.
Given the possibilities and potential of Vista, the years of development to make it a more stable and attractive OS than XP, I personally see it as a great investment for my PC and don't think it's over-priced....tho I wouldn't complain if MS decided to knock a few bucks off the RRP.