Vista compatibility issues - By MM

application test on vista :)

Thursday, October 12, 2006 by MagedMedia | Discussion: Windows Vista

Well and Now here is Vista Review Part 2 -the compatibility issues
here i will write about the most common used programs and if there is errors in
installation , use ,.... etc

i have tried many programs and their different versions to try making a full
resource for you about compatibility issues so it took me a while after my
Vista New Features Review

First to Start with is the security programs to clear some points in that wide discussion
i have tested many programs of different Companies



1- Symantec Products as you see in the screen shot Vista refuses even starting installation
for any Symantec internet security and included products dated from 2003 to 2006



- and so i tried Symantec NIS 2007 .. now NIS was the one to refuse installation!!!



2- & for McAfee2006 Vista Refuses to install this version



- But in this screenshot Vista accepted the last version of McAfee security suite 2007



3- & "Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 14" went with no problems all



4- and if we take a look about ad wares protection programs I have tried one program in that
field (well maybe i didn't try another program as I see adaware is doing all the job perfectly)
i simply didn't find any errors in SE version 1.05 & 1.06 installations






Let us enter another important field specially for the designers and skinners : the Graphics Programs
We Will talk about:
Adobe Photoshop CS2 , Paint Shop pro , ACD 8 Pro , WindowBlinds 5 & Skin studio



1- here i started with Adobe Photoshop everything was working perfectly here until i came to the update part
as u see from this screenshot there is an error in the PS update but for truth there isn't any other errors
except that update



2- in this screenshot here is my test for the Paint Shop pro well after setup version XI i launched the program
it said that this version is expired !!! and so after a little thinking i tried to right click
the program and choose run as admin (although i am really logged on using admin account )
and... it is done everything went right after that



3- and ACD while running installation and every time you will run ACD Vista will give warning about compatibility issues
but.... i have been testing it for a reasonable while and nothing happened every thing is working smoothly without any
errors

4- and the well Known WindowBlinds 5 Vista will give warning about compatibility issues i tried to pass this warning
and continue installation but this time this didn't work at all
by the way skinstudio worked if you still wants to make skins for XP using Vista


and also we will Not forget the Internet related Products here
of course Vista comes with the great IE7 and i will not talk about it here (of course there isn't any compatibility issues here
but also if u still want to read about IE7 you can read my Vista Review you will find it here in the same site
and many other sites that is discussing Vista you will find it under the name of "Vista Review BY MM" )
and now but to the other products

Messengers:



1- well first to start with and the most strange is Microsoft Windows Live messenger yes it didn't work (at least in my test)
when you try to sign in it gives an error message as u see in the screen shot



- but when I run the troubleshooter it didn't find anything interfering with its connection !!!!



2- Google talk working perfectly

Browsers:



1- here is opera 9 without any problems



2- and the new growing FireFox without any problems too


well and as i thought for zipping programs there isn't any errors i have tried Winzip and Winrare and i think they don't
need screenshots we all know them well

a small tip: if you tried a program in Vista and it didn't work don't give up that ey
but take an extra moment trying to pass compatibility warning if there is any and
try also right clicking the lunch file (exe) and choose run as admin
that what i did with ACD & Paint Shop Pro
did i hear you saying that this will be a silly thing to do every time!!
well vista is doing such things due to a new feature that is called "user account control"
Microsoft thought this will be safer that vista will always ask your permission to do tasks
but you can easily turn this off from the user accounts in the control panel

and if you want to know more about Vista features you can read my review under the name "Vista Review By MM" you will find it
here too

at last thanks for your Valuable time reading my compatibility Review hope you enjoyed it and also wish i have answered many
of your questions

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whiterabbit007
Reply #1 Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:14 PM
Nice writeup, it's good to see that the programs I use work fine

Btw, the PC-Cillin you have, is that a European version or something, as I never heard of PC-Cillin 14 but the interface on the screenshot looks exactly like PC-Cillin 2006 that I have?

Are you going to do a similar look at games? I'd be interested to know about game compatibility and performance issues.

Also, have you tested any extensions for firefox? I expect since it (FF) works fine, its extensions would also work, nonetheless, some of them get quite complex and it is a new OS after all so it'd be interesting to test I think.

Thank you for these articles, I appreciate the work you're doing.
seldomseen
Reply #2 Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:04 PM
MM, You've really gone the extra mile here and offered a new look at Vista as well as invaluable tips and experience. I didn't have to install Vista or work out any issues, all I had to do was spend a few minutes reading your Reviews. Thank you very much. You're doing us a great favor and it's free for us. Unheard of. I for one will keep on the lookout for any posts from you, as well as re-reading and studying the existing works. You, sir, are a true Knight of the Realm.
Aquamonkey
Reply #3 Friday, October 13, 2006 1:53 AM
Is the NIS you tried a pre release, I can't believe they'd release their 2007 range and not be Vista compatible
brewman
Reply #4 Friday, October 13, 2006 8:21 AM
With my clean install of 5744, I have had a couple new problems crop up that I haven't
had before.

1.) With the Taskbar at the top of screen, I'm getting a 1/4" high translucent stripe
across the screen (just under the taskbar). Comments @ Neowin have stated a similar problem.
2.) On previous versions, PC-cillan would load their beta version of "2007" for vista.
Now that 2007 is available for purchase for WinXP, the version used for Vista is now
called "14", which Maged Media stated above. On my machine it pops up with the usual
update screen as before, uploads the updates, but will not install them! I get an error
stating that an internet connection cannot be found ..... weird. I've uninstalled several
times with the same results.

Everything else seems to be running fine so far.
MagedMedia
Reply #5 Friday, October 13, 2006 12:29 PM
whiterabbit007 , thanks alot for your nice comment
as Master brewman in post 4 wrote The trend Micro version for vista is called ver 14,
i have just tried FireFox extensions for you (FasterFox and FlashGot) they are working
fine without any errors
and about games i will try making a coming review about Vista performane with games

Citizen seldomseen Thank you very much for your wonderful words very much appreciated

Hell Cat thanks for the comment this NIS version is the latest version from symantec Site

Master brewman thanks for the comment & about Updating pc Cillin 14 about connection error it gave me that error too
in the first times i tried updating but it is now working perfectly with the automatic update
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #6 Friday, October 13, 2006 1:02 PM

I can't believe they'd release their 2007 range and not be Vista compatible 

Norton products access the Windows kernel and as such currently will not run on Vista without some serious reprogramming (or MS removing kernel protection, which is not likely).

Norton stuff is the worst virus out there so I suppose kernel protection does work   

Septimus
Reply #7 Friday, October 13, 2006 5:57 PM
Nice write up, but apart from the security apps which shouldn't work due to kernel protection, some of the issues you are reporting are due (probably) to your setup, not Vista as such. Of course others will get different issues.

Also, Live Messenger servers were down quite a while in various areas... Live Messenger works fine on RC2 for me.
skinz2nice
Reply #8 Friday, October 13, 2006 6:08 PM
AND I HAVE TREND MICRO INTERNET SECURITY 2006!!! ABOUT TO UPGRADE TO THE 2007 WHEN THAT COMES OUT. TREND MICRO IS THE BEST OF THEM ALL!!! I GET ONE OR TWO MAYBE EVEN THREE UPDATES A DAY AND IF A VIRUS OR NETWORK VIRUS COMES THROUGH MY COMPUTER INTERNET TRAFFIC WILL BE HALTED AND IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY TRY TO DELETE THE VIRUS. IF IT IS UNABLE TO DELETE OR CLEAN IT IT WILL QUARANTINE IT!! I CANT BELIEVE TREND MICRO WENT PERFECT FOR VISTA. THIS IS A GOOD THING. NOW WHEN I GET VISTA I KNOW MY TREND MICRO WILL WORK!!!
Island Dog
Reply #9 Friday, October 13, 2006 6:54 PM
Maybe we can not use the Cap Locks key next time. It's very hurtful on the eyes.

seldomseen
Reply #10 Friday, October 13, 2006 10:11 PM
Second that
MagedMedia
Reply #11 Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:35 AM
Well first thanks all for the comments

Septimus the issues i reported here don't depend on the installation at all

and i am with you Island Dog the Caps lock is really hard on eyes
Sosiosh
Reply #12 Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:48 PM
I cannot believe you bought into this "vista" junk. This is Me all over again. Get yourself a legitimate Windows XP 64-bit and customize at will. Soon the vendors will see the real money is with the developers and 64-bit is the best! "vista" is full of bells amd whistles intended for the mediocre user. Get a grip!!!!
WinMikez
Reply #13 Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:46 AM
Windows Live Messenger Works for me. Also if you want free antivirus software that is desighned to work with Vista try avast! antivirus v4.7 Home Edition. http://www.avast.com/
starkers
Reply #14 Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:12 PM
I think one compatability issue will be the price not working in too well with a lot of peoples wallets/bank accounts. I just heard that here in Oz the full version of Vista Ultimate will retail at $751 (US $440 approx), the Upgrade Pack at $580 US $262 approx) . That's close to $300 more than XP Pro, and there's a lot of groaning and complaining going on about it....even some Vista beta/RC testers who've quite liked it are saying (at that price) they'll be sticking with XP

I know this is a bit off topic, but for those looking to purchase Vista, price will be the determining factor in whether they get it or not.


Oh well, if those are the going prices, it looks like I'll have to settle for the Vista Ultimate upgrade.
Island Dog
Reply #15 Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:54 PM
I know this is a bit off topic, but for those looking to purchase Vista, price will be the determining factor in whether they get it or not.


I think price will be a factor for me. $400 for a Vista edition is a lot of money.
brewman
Reply #16 Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:50 PM
Having worked with Vista for a couple
of months now, I don't see any compelling
reason to make me pony up the money.
I'll be sticking with XP pro.
It gives me everything I need and
it's been rock solid.
Hapkido
Reply #17 Monday, October 16, 2006 1:09 AM
I've been running Vista RC1 for awhile and find it to be quite nice. I wouldn't have any problems replacing XP except for 2 major issues for me: 1) It's going to take some time for software/hardware developers to update drivers that are compatible with Vista, and 2) as others have already mentioned, there is the cost factor. It's a bit too steep for even the upgrade versions, especially "Ultimate".
starkers
Reply #18 Monday, October 16, 2006 2:23 AM

I think price will be a factor for me. $400 for a Vista edition is a lot of money.

It's a bit too steep for even the upgrade versions, especially "Ultimate".


This is the general reaction when most people learn of the price, though some are more vocal about what MS can do with Vista. I wonder if MS is listening to the general consensus...whether they'll rethink their pricing policy in order to sell more units to a greater number of consumers??????? I certainly hope so - it would be a shame to see Vista go the way of ME, not because it's a poor OS, but because it is too over-priced for the average user.

For $751 here in Oz, we can buy a package deal PC with XP Pro installed, which would be highly unlikely with Vista installed, so the average user isn't going to be tempted to into purchasing (just) an OS for an equivelant price. Shoot, we can even pick up a reasonable second-hand car for around 700 - 800 bucks, and being that car prices are often the benchmark on value for money, me thinks Vista won't fare so well here.....even Vista Home Premium will struggle to sell at AU$455, when we can pick up XP Pro Upgrade for AU$120 these days.

I will eventually get Vista, but it'll have to go on hold until much later in 2007 now, as the wife and I are moving from Tasmania to Queensland in February '07.

Island Dog
Reply #19 Monday, October 16, 2006 3:38 AM
I do agree with you Starkers. I have been running the beta for many months, and I do "like" Vista. It's just hard to justify a $400 price tag.

MagedMedia
Reply #20 Monday, October 16, 2006 10:43 AM
My voice goes with you too
although Vista is a real move from XP specially in Aero design and the redesign of many Main structures like My Computer .. etc
but $400 will be a very high Price to move From Xp which is satisfying all our needs untill now

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