Why do Windows Vista apps still lag behind OSX?

Is it a difference in audience or a difference in OS?

Sunday, January 27, 2008 by cavalierex | Discussion: Windows Vista

I have a question for the community at large.

Over the past year that I’ve been reading Lifehacker and other productivity sites (like 43 Folders), I’ve noticed a number productivity apps for the Mac OSX that are just friggin awesome. They really seem to be well thought-out and really "fit into the workflow."

For example:

My question is, why don’t such things exist for Windows?... or do they, and we just don’t know about it?

Surely, there exist the same needs for really good productivity apps among Windows users. Heck, if David Allen gave a 45-minute lecture to Google (and I’m sure a lot of them are PC users), then the need is out there. And yet, as much as Outlook and OneNote are useful applications, they just don’t "fit into the workflow" as well as the aforementioned Mac OSX applications. And they definitely aren’t as polished (with regard to either eye-candiness or usability).

Recently, Long Zheng described a new business app that uses WPF, and it looks pretty sleek.

So, the capability is there... But such things are still few and far between. Indeed (as far as I know), even Microsoft itself hasn't released any great apps that exploit WPF or the other capabilities of Vista.

So what gives? Is there just less interest after all?  (Hard to believe.)  Is Windows just harder to program for?  Do Windows apps just try to do too much, and therefore not see the forest for the trees? Are marketing and competition different when dealing with Windows?  Are GTD and productivity needs (such as Scrivener) still an under-the-radar thing that only appeals to the same crowd who end up preferring Macs anyway, and thus the creative people who write this software only write it for that platform?

With the huge userbase in Windows; with powerful Microsoft Office applications, including Word/Outlook/OneNote 2007 (all pretty good, actually); with the new potential opened up by Vista’s WPF – I’d expect to see a lot of leveraging of the Windows environment… apps that utilize the power of all these key applications, but create new user interfaces (and better user experiences) for it.

Just really curious. Look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts!

~ Alessandro (cavalierex)

ZubaZ
Reply #1 Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:26 PM
Third post, no response = little interest.  Sorry man.    
lee3908870
Reply #2 Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:11 PM
I don't mean to be brass about this, but a great deal of people who run some sort of MS O/S really could care less about Mac O/S X and the applications available to those who are using O/S X.

You have to remember that only about 7% of the PC users are on a Mac.

Lee
liquidguru
Reply #3 Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:20 PM
Having had a quick look at the links you provided I would say that Things, iGTD2 and Omnifocus offer, for most people, the same functionality as Outlook. Your last link is really is a very small niche market and similar products exist for Windows.

This post is like a broken pencil............pointless
cavalierex
Reply #4 Monday, January 28, 2008 11:34 PM
Wow. I thought more people would be interested in this. Guess not. My mistake.

By the way, don't know why there are all those smiley faces... They weren't in the preview when I entered the article.
Yusaini
Reply #5 Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:24 AM
Nice try
adysoft
Reply #6 Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:37 AM
I think this is a great post. Microsoft is investing millions of dollars in WPF, and it is true that the .net community is not that excited about it.
Many reasons to that (and I know what I'm talking about). The biggest one is because WPF is something completely new for a windows developper, and it's not easy to learn.
So most of them rather stay on orlder technologies (winform) where they feel more confortable and efficient.
But make no mistake, one day or the other, WPF will prevail, that's for sure !

Here is a WPF application I'm working on : myBoard(the mac os X dashboard on windows)
SlimSpaceman
Reply #7 Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:02 PM
Off Topic: Man, I just checked your site... That MyBoard thing you're working on is so cool!
adysoft
Reply #8 Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:18 PM

Off Topic: Man, I just checked your site... That MyBoard thing you're working on is so cool!


Thanks, but myBoard is just a glimps of what can be done with WPF. When Microsoft came with .NET 1.0 and winforms a lot developpers though it was pointless and was eating to much ram compared to native C++ application.
The same is now happening with WPF, and it's just a question of time before it get adopted by all developpers.
ZubaZ
Reply #9 Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:45 PM
myBoard is a neat looking app.
As you progress, please continue to post about it here at WC.    
cavalierex
Reply #10 Friday, February 1, 2008 11:07 PM
@Adysoft

Bien fait! C'est un chef d'oeuvre!
johnthecompnerd
Reply #11 Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:41 PM
I don't know really. Programming for a mac is really easy (thanks to automator and other apps mac's made) Mac is seriously significantly better than Windows. in every aspect. speed, appearance, specs, etc. There's a reason why you're seeing so many more macs today
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #12 Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:49 PM
Yeah, and mac users are multi-functional too - most of them talk through their arses   
Leo the Lion
Reply #13 Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:04 PM
Just to elaborate on Fuzzy's 'arses'.........That's 'ass' or 'butt' to those of us in the US   

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