RIP W7

You can still update to W10 for free

Tuesday, January 14, 2020 by DrJBHL | Discussion: Personal Computing

W7 ran its course from 2009 to 2020.

MS has notified that there will be no more support for W7, meaning its kernel will become vulnerable to attack:

"Security updates are essential to staying safe online, and Windows 10 is getting them while Windows 7 isn’t. Many flaws found in Windows 10 will also apply to Windows 7. Attackers will hear about them and can start attacking those vulnerable Windows 7 systems. As more time goes by, more unpatched, known flaws will exist in Windows 7 for exploiting. Hardware manufacturers are also supporting Windows 10 instead of Windows 7. This will only get truer after the end-of-support date. Even software companies will one day stop releasing new versions of their web browsers and other software for Windows 7." - How to Geek

Needless to say, drivers compatible to W7 will also not be updated by the various hardware and software companies.

Many aren't updating because their machines might be old. This is another error. W10 will run faster than W7 if the W10 requirements are met, and which aren't so different than the demands of W7.

True, the huge updates are a minus, but, they go hand in hand with security updates as well. Also, the updates have been getting smaller, perhaps because they involve enabling features present in prior downloads which sit quietly on your system until enough testing (supposedly) allows MS to "unmask" them.

The security, or lack thereof in W7, is well explained here: https://www.neowin.net/news/gchq-its-time-to-ditch-windows-7-if-you-want-to-stay-safe-online. GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters), is an intelligence and security organisation responsible for providing signals intelligence and information assurance to the government and armed forces of the United Kingdom.

There's still a way to update to W10 for free: https://www.howtogeek.com/266072/you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free-with-a-windows-7-8-or-8.1-key/

All in all, W7 is now an OS with a major liability, and you should migrate.

 

gHacks has a good take on W7's end of life: https://www.ghacks.net/2020/01/14/windows-7-support-ends-today-here-are-your-options/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e2414%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e2iur

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admiralWillyWilber
Reply #61 Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:12 AM

I don't know I just tried playing a DVD movie off windows media player. That didn't work, so I tried downloading the free version of Real Player that didn't work. So microsoft is charging extra to play DVD movies. That is a huge minus for ten. Yes I think that 8 is one of the biggest mistakes microsoft made.  

AzDude
Reply #62 Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:45 AM

admiralWillyWilber

I don't know I just tried playing a DVD movie off windows media player. That didn't work, so I tried downloading the free version of Real Player that didn't work. So microsoft is charging extra to play DVD movies. That is a huge minus for ten. Yes I think that 8 is one of the biggest mistakes microsoft made.  

Answered here https://forums.stardock.com/498621/page/1/#3770258

 

starkers
Reply #63 Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:55 AM

admiralWillyWilber

Yes I think that 8 is one of the biggest mistakes microsoft made.

Had there not been Win 8/8.1, there likely would not be a Win 10.... or if there was, it would far more raw and ill-equipped than it is.  Just like Vista!  Without it Win 7 would not have been as polished and ready to go out of the box.

admiralWillyWilber
Reply #64 Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:11 AM

I'm sorry I figured it out right before I went to bed. Windows Media player played rose red, but it was to late for me to watch it.

admiralWillyWilber
Reply #65 Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:32 AM

In 2003 they were testing three operating systems. One was XP service pack two, one was Vista, the other was seven. They decided to go with service pack two instead of seven. Later when they decided to replace XP they liked Vista, because it did less than seven. They realised later that they should have went with seven instead of Vista. We could have went with a rawer less polished version of seven in 2003. Instead of having it in 2007. We would be having right now what we will have in 2024. 

Ok now I said what Microsoft admited to. What you are saying about we can't have seven without eight I also have to drive agree with. What happens under the hood part still is probably true. What I'm talking about is interface. Some of what is in ten is fixing crapping the desktop, not really improvements. They wasted time remaking the desktop. Time never spent if they would have never destroyed the desktop in the first place. If we did it my way windows ten would be about the same under the hood. Just without all these bugs windows keep coming out with, but the interface for the desktop would be light-years ahead right now, because I would never have to try to combine the tablet, smartphones, and the computer. 

Now as far as eight goes. In referencing to how technology works most inventions are based by what was solved when it's being used, not thought of. If they would not have tried to combine the computer and the smartphone with eight. Windows ten would be more desktop oriented right now than it is. Now even with the desktop being better than what it is now. There would still have been other bugs that would still have popped up. 

My point is I would disagree that we couldn't have ten without eight. It would be better right now if eight didn't try to destroy the desktop, and for a freebie we didn't have to have Vista to have seven. Seven could have came out in 2003 also 

 

LightStar
Reply #66 Tuesday, February 25, 2020 11:04 AM

I just wish we had 7 and that 8 and 10 had never existed. I have never wasted so much time fixing OS issues as I have with 10. It is a POS.

Jan Oscar
Reply #67 Tuesday, February 25, 2020 2:48 PM

LightStar

I just wish we had 7 and that 8 and 10 had never existed. I have never wasted so much time fixing OS issues as I have with 10. It is a POS.
Very true from a skinners perspective, I guess, but remove skinning from the equation, most people find Windows 10 stable and user friendly. My-two-cents.

starkers
Reply #68 Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:54 PM

LightStar

I just wish we had 7 and that 8 and 10 had never existed. I have never wasted so much time fixing OS issues as I have with 10. It is a POS.

Same here, grrrrh!  Yesterday I had a BSOD and time after time it came up after rebooting, no matter what I did to fix it.  I tried System Restore from several restore points and still the BSOD came up after rebooting, despite System Restore notifying me it had completed successfully each time.  I tried starting in Safe Mode several times to undo any recent changes but still the BSOD persisted.  I tried sfc /scannow and still no go.  I also tried an Acronis system image and that too failed to resolve the BSOD.  

It seemed like nothing was going to resolve the issue and in the end I was given no choice but to reformat and start from scratch.  Now I have to reload all my programs and skins, etc.  I've had BSODs on other versions of Windows in the past, but never did I have one that was irreparable like this one.

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