Symantec sticks Microsoft with law suit...
Trying to halt Vista...
Friday, May 19, 2006 by RPGFX | Discussion: Microsoft
An aritcle on www.pcworld.com talks about Symantec suing Mircosoft to stop development of Vista...
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MasonM
Reply #42 Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:57 PM
Reply #42 Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:57 PM
It's tough for me to decide who to root for here as I despise both of them. 
Jafo
Reply #43 Monday, May 29, 2006 1:44 AM
Reply #43 Monday, May 29, 2006 1:44 AM
| It's tough for me to decide who to root for here as I despise both of them. |
It ain't 'tough' for me. The 'Win' in 'Wincustomize' stands for 'Windows' aka Microsoft's OS [plural].
It's quite pointless to 'despise' the provider of the [vast majority of] Operating Systems in use, but, on the other hand it's not all that 'difficult' to 'point the bone' at Symantec when the latter's record is somewhat less than exemplary. It seems NAV can do as much to harm a machine as to help it...
starkers
Reply #44 Monday, May 29, 2006 10:34 AM
I certainly hope not....MS is by far the lesser of two evils, looking at it from a software perspective.
Ms seems to be trying to do the right thing in producing a stable, functional and more pleasing to the eye OS with Vista, whereas Symantec throws out lines of buggy code that's far too invasive and frequently detrimental to users machines.
My bread's best buttered with MS products, as opposed to Symantec's, so IF the latter wins this one, I sincerely hope the world boycotts their products in protest of the Vista interference and NAV/NIS, etc, get flushed into the sewers where they belong.
Reply #44 Monday, May 29, 2006 10:34 AM
| Microsoft will more than likely lose.. |
I certainly hope not....MS is by far the lesser of two evils, looking at it from a software perspective.
Ms seems to be trying to do the right thing in producing a stable, functional and more pleasing to the eye OS with Vista, whereas Symantec throws out lines of buggy code that's far too invasive and frequently detrimental to users machines.
My bread's best buttered with MS products, as opposed to Symantec's, so IF the latter wins this one, I sincerely hope the world boycotts their products in protest of the Vista interference and NAV/NIS, etc, get flushed into the sewers where they belong.
starkers
Reply #45 Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:32 PM
Reply #45 Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:32 PM
Just thought I'd add a couple more links to articles on the subject....
It seems some industry analysts think Symantec is punching above its weight in taking on the world's software leader...that MS's entry into the security market could spell Armageddon for some PC security companies.
In other words, Symantec's chances are like those of a snowball's in Hell.
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4379/53/
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4479/53/
It seems some industry analysts think Symantec is punching above its weight in taking on the world's software leader...that MS's entry into the security market could spell Armageddon for some PC security companies.
In other words, Symantec's chances are like those of a snowball's in Hell.
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4379/53/
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4479/53/
DesignCaddy
Reply #46 Sunday, June 4, 2006 3:03 AM
Reply #46 Sunday, June 4, 2006 3:03 AM
i'm having bumper stickers made that say 'symantec screwed my PC!'. Any interest?
i was a norton cheerleader until last summer, when the lastest internet security twisted three of my computers inside out. Coupled with systemworks de-evolving... MS -is- continuing to upgrade windows to the point where a user does not need norton. AND THEY SHOULD!! the OS maker has a right to perfect his software so that their customer doens't need to buy additional software. I hope symantec crashes and burns.
( and death to real player.. )
i was a norton cheerleader until last summer, when the lastest internet security twisted three of my computers inside out. Coupled with systemworks de-evolving... MS -is- continuing to upgrade windows to the point where a user does not need norton. AND THEY SHOULD!! the OS maker has a right to perfect his software so that their customer doens't need to buy additional software. I hope symantec crashes and burns.
( and death to real player.. )
starkers
Reply #47 Sunday, June 4, 2006 9:09 AM
Reply #47 Sunday, June 4, 2006 9:09 AM
Could be that Symantec is inwardly conceding defeat in its suit against Microsoft ....http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4499/53/....in that the Norton 360 suite being developed for XP also includes provision/development for the upcoming VISTA. With that being so, Symantec cannot be too confident in preventing MS releasing Vista in its current configuration.
Chilinmichael
Reply #48 Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:37 PM
Reply #48 Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:37 PM
So let me get this straight now...
One Company that can't write software worth a damn that has a million bugs (Symantec) is suing ANOTHER company that can't write software worth a damn that has a million bugs. I say we all just sit here and watch for entertainment purposes...
One Company that can't write software worth a damn that has a million bugs (Symantec) is suing ANOTHER company that can't write software worth a damn that has a million bugs. I say we all just sit here and watch for entertainment purposes...
seldomseen
Reply #49 Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:09 PM
Right on. Reality-check. Works for me. McAfee the better a/v program of the two for me, with AdAware/AdWatch running too. I figure I'm probably 60%-70% covered against pests. Would wish for a/v to be included in OS, but that's just wishing...maybe a nice toxic shell for the OS, now, thet would be o.k.
Reply #49 Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:09 PM
| The 'Win' in 'Wincustomize' stands for 'Windows' |
Right on. Reality-check. Works for me. McAfee the better a/v program of the two for me, with AdAware/AdWatch running too. I figure I'm probably 60%-70% covered against pests. Would wish for a/v to be included in OS, but that's just wishing...maybe a nice toxic shell for the OS, now, thet would be o.k.
starkers
Reply #50 Wednesday, June 7, 2006 2:02 AM
What....and have fun at others' expense? But then again, I'm gonna enjoy seeing Symantec go down in a screaming heap. They've got 3 chances...Buckley's, none and f-all of winning against MS, bit off more than they can chew this time. 
Not exactly in XP or Vista, but the proposed Windows Firewall update will be much improved...then there's 'One Care Live'...not included in the OS as such, but it's keeping your Windows/Security updates with the one vendor and less invasive than NIS/McAfee. Think I'll be going that way when it becomes available in Oz.
Bye, bye Symantec.
Reply #50 Wednesday, June 7, 2006 2:02 AM
| I say we all just sit here and watch for entertainment purposes... |
What....and have fun at others' expense? But then again, I'm gonna enjoy seeing Symantec go down in a screaming heap.
They've got 3 chances...Buckley's, none and f-all of winning against MS, bit off more than they can chew this time. 
| Would wish for a/v to be included in OS, |
Not exactly in XP or Vista, but the proposed Windows Firewall update will be much improved...then there's 'One Care Live'...not included in the OS as such, but it's keeping your Windows/Security updates with the one vendor and less invasive than NIS/McAfee. Think I'll be going that way when it becomes available in Oz.
Bye, bye Symantec.
speedy5662
Reply #51 Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:08 PM
Reply #51 Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:08 PM
Symantec faces $1 billion tax demand
Thursday June 29, 12:41 PM EDT
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Symantec Corp. (SYMC) said on Thursday it filed a petition with the U.S. Tax Court over an IRS demand that the security software maker pay $1.06 billion in back taxes and penalties related to its affiliate.
The Internal Revenue Service is seeking about $758 million in back taxes owed by Veritas Software Corp., which Symantec acquired in 2005, and $303 million in penalties, according to the petition filed on Monday.
"We believe we have done everything to cooperate with the IRS to resolve this issue in good faith and we will continue to make efforts to resolve our disputes on an acceptable basis," Symantec said in a statement.
"We do not agree with the IRS position and will work with the courts to seek a definitive resolution."
The company said the dispute is over the formula for calculating "transfer pricing," which determines how companies set prices, fees and cost-allocation arrangements between their operations in different jurisdictions.
The IRS said Veritas and its Irish subsidiary did not properly allocate their respective incomes, according to Symantec's petition.
Symantec shares were up 13 cents, or 0.85 percent, at $15.36 in midday trading on the Nasdaq. The news was first reported in the Wall Street Journal.
On June 9, Symantec said it had reached an agreement with the IRS to settle an outstanding tax claim for $36 million over the audit of its 2003 and 2004 fiscal years.
This is more proof that they not only screw us, they screw the Government as well.
Get 'em Uncle Sam!!!!
Speedy
Thursday June 29, 12:41 PM EDT
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Symantec Corp. (SYMC) said on Thursday it filed a petition with the U.S. Tax Court over an IRS demand that the security software maker pay $1.06 billion in back taxes and penalties related to its affiliate.
The Internal Revenue Service is seeking about $758 million in back taxes owed by Veritas Software Corp., which Symantec acquired in 2005, and $303 million in penalties, according to the petition filed on Monday.
"We believe we have done everything to cooperate with the IRS to resolve this issue in good faith and we will continue to make efforts to resolve our disputes on an acceptable basis," Symantec said in a statement.
"We do not agree with the IRS position and will work with the courts to seek a definitive resolution."
The company said the dispute is over the formula for calculating "transfer pricing," which determines how companies set prices, fees and cost-allocation arrangements between their operations in different jurisdictions.
The IRS said Veritas and its Irish subsidiary did not properly allocate their respective incomes, according to Symantec's petition.
Symantec shares were up 13 cents, or 0.85 percent, at $15.36 in midday trading on the Nasdaq. The news was first reported in the Wall Street Journal.
On June 9, Symantec said it had reached an agreement with the IRS to settle an outstanding tax claim for $36 million over the audit of its 2003 and 2004 fiscal years.
This is more proof that they not only screw us, they screw the Government as well.
Get 'em Uncle Sam!!!!
Speedy
Jafo
Reply #52 Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:19 PM
Reply #52 Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:19 PM
They got Al Capone on tax evasion.....
Symantec is also 'da mob'?....
starkers
Reply #53 Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 AM
Yep....they got thugs in da proggies that'll machine gun yer puter - break yer BITS if ya don't stick with da 'protection racket'.
Reply #53 Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 AM
| Symantec is also 'da mob'? |
Yep....they got thugs in da proggies that'll machine gun yer puter - break yer BITS if ya don't stick with da 'protection racket'.
whatwhere
Reply #54 Monday, April 23, 2007 8:43 PM
Reply #54 Monday, April 23, 2007 8:43 PM
well frankly i use symantec and honestly i have no problems with it plus not to mention it saved my arse a few hundred times
pjdark
Reply #55 Monday, April 23, 2007 8:52 PM
agreed..............ugh.
Reply #55 Monday, April 23, 2007 8:52 PM
Someone should sue Symantec for making such terrible software.
agreed..............ugh.
Nimbin
Reply #56 Monday, April 23, 2007 9:13 PM
Reply #56 Monday, April 23, 2007 9:13 PM
symantec should put more effort into producing useable software that doesn't wreck computers. nuff said
Astyanax
Reply #57 Monday, April 23, 2007 9:55 PM
You beat me to it. I was just going to say: They should fix their own products before going after someone elses.
Reply #57 Monday, April 23, 2007 9:55 PM
Someone should sue Symantec for making such terrible software.
You beat me to it. I was just going to say: They should fix their own products before going after someone elses.
scorpNZ
Reply #58 Monday, April 23, 2007 10:06 PM
Correct i am happy with norton products since they were all made by someone else
ghost 2003
partition magic
As for macdonalds i'd prefer mine in a can just heat n eat
Reply #58 Monday, April 23, 2007 10:06 PM
To be fair, clearly there are people out there that are totally happy with Symantec and their products......
There are also Martians....
Fairies....
Good dietary reasons NOT to nuke Macdonalds.....
Correct i am happy with norton products since they were all made by someone else
ghost 2003
partition magic
As for macdonalds i'd prefer mine in a can just heat n eat
XX
Reply #59 Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:53 AM
Reply #59 Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:53 AM
Wow now thats blast from past. I guess that company failed to block vista. 
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Reply #41 Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:50 PM
Either way, Symantec software is horrible, buggy and conflicting as heck with any windows version.
Good thing I use Computer Associates as recommended by someone on WinCustomize.com long ago when I was looking for an alternative to Symantec software.